looking for logo artist

[Nathan]

Hello all,

I am looking for a artist to help me design a logo. It's pretty simple.

Thanks,
Nate

[Zachary]

Chad Hill is your man. http://www.djangostudios.com/

[p51]

Some key points you probably should have addressed:
-Are you willing to pay for a good design?
-What's it for?
-Do you already have ideas for elements you might want?
Generally speaking, people value a finished product, but rarely ever the process to create it. In other words, nobody ever wants to pay for something like this. It's one of the reasons I gave up being a professional graphic artist many years ago because the inevitable conclusion hit me that for the most part, people just don't want to pay you to do it.

[Warbird Kid]

people just don't want to pay you to do it.

I know that story all too well. "I won't pay you, but it would be great exposure for you!" I can't tell you how many times I've been hit with that one. Both for graphic design and music. Yeah cuz thats how the world works. And I can totally pay my bills with exposure.

The sad fact is you wouldn't even have to pay me a lot. But I still would want my time reimbursed.

[p51]

people just don't want to pay you to do it.

I know that story all too well. "I won't pay you, but it would be great exposure for you!" I can't tell you how many times I've been hit with that one.

I would say you and me both, but that'd also apply to almost any commercial artist that ever lived. Yeah, I fell for that when I was in my teens, a few times, but I wised up real fast, (as I bet, you did, too).
A co-worker recently asked for advice for their kid who did actually have some skills. I said, "Yeah, tell 'em to go to school for something else, because they'll never make a living at it because nobody ever wants to pay for the stuff they need."
They really should teach in art schools how to handle where nobody wants to pay you for your work (and yet they want the finished product).
Requests for free work only EVER lead to one thing: Requests for more free work from others.
I'm in my 40s, and have been published more times than I could possibly count, and I still get the 'exposure' shtick from people who want my work but don't wanna pay for it. I tell them all the same thing-
"Yeah, I have all the exposure I'd ever need. In fact, I've been turning down work over the last couple of years due to the time I'm devoting to other longterm projects. I'm curious, do you also ask roofers or plumbers to do work for free, too?" The end of that sure sets people back!
It's funny, that so many people are just shocked and dismayed when you even bring up payment. People really don't see design and illustration as something they even should have to pay for. I know it's the same for musicians, too, but I contend it's more so for artists as they have supplies and it takes longer to paint/draw something than it does to sing a song.
It's awful when on a job, your co-workers find out you can draw. Suddenly, you're being told (and never, EVER asked) to draw/paint whatever insane comes into their heads. Since the Army (where I was ordered to do cartoons/illustrations on several occasions), I have told every employer that yes, I can draw, but NO, I'm not drawing for the company unless I'm paid my commercial rates. That shuts them down cold for the most part.
Didn't stop a co-worker who saw my stuff online recently from coming up and saying she liked my work and then declaring that I would (again, never asking) be doing the birthday cards for people form then on. I slowly stood up and said, "No, I'm really not, unless someone wants to pay me my commercial rate, which would be about [insert an actually reasonable amount here]."

[phil65]

For the love of aviation.....

[Nathan]

Some key points you probably should have addressed:
-Are you willing to pay for a good design?
-What's it for?
-Do you already have ideas for elements you might want?
Generally speaking, people value a finished product, but rarely ever the process to create it. In other words, nobody ever wants to pay for something like this. It's one of the reasons I gave up being a professional graphic artist many years ago because the inevitable conclusion hit me that for the most part, people just don't want to pay you to do it.

1. willing to pay? yes I am
2. for a museum
3. the design is already done and its very simple

Thanks,
Nate- Pm me if interested

[lmritger]

people just don't want to pay you to do it.

I know that story all too well. "I won't pay you, but it would be great exposure for you!" I can't tell you how many times I've been hit with that one. Both for graphic design and music. Yeah cuz thats how the world works. And I can totally pay my bills with exposure.

The sad fact is you wouldn't even have to pay me a lot. But I still would want my time reimbursed.

Lynn

[Warbird Kid]

Okay thats funny! Lol.

[p51]

1. willing to pay? yes I am
2. for a museum
3. the design is already done and its very simple

I don't understand, you originally wrote that you wanted someone to design the thing, but it's already done?
I'm not busting your chops, I'm just genuinely confused.

[Nathan]

I don't understand, you originally wrote that you wanted someone to design the thing, but it's already done?
I'm not busting your chops, I'm just genuinely confused.

I have the idea for it. I wrote out myself. just looking for someone that's a better artist then me

[P51Mstg]

P51 Love your reply.... Sounds like what I say...

Watch this one.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE


Mark H

[p51]

I have the idea for it. I wrote out myself. just looking for someone that's a better artist then me

Ah, okay, that makes sense, thanks for clearing that up. Just be prepared for a real commercial artist to go another direction. Generally speaking, a commercial artist doesn't get much out of simply rendering every line and curve you have in your head. You might be better off just hiring a computer person to render whatever sketch you have, as it might be cheaper for you that way.

Watch this one.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE

Mark, thanks for posting that.
I totally agreed with his rant as he has a right to think this way. For those who don't know him, he’s considered one of the most well-published sci-fi writers of all time and I promise you that almost all of you have watched stuff on TV and movies that he wrote over the years.
Seriously, someone actually used the “It’ll be good for exposure,” line on THIS guy? It’s initially tempting to say that the studio person must have not understood who the heck she was talking to, but really she probably knew exactly who he was.