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How to prevent a P-40 from ever having a sharks mouth? ...

Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:34 pm

... as we know sharks mouths to be applied on P-40's? One way is to create an XP-40Q and you won't have the chin to paint teeth on. Ugly looking thing! The later air racer type was much better looking.

"The P-40Q was an experimental project which attempted to produce a really modern fighter out of the existing P-40. The modifications were in fact so drastic that there was very little in common with earlier P-40 versions.

Two P-40Ks (serial numbers 42-9987 and 42-45722) and one P-40N (serial number 43-24571) were extensively modified with revised cooling systems, two-stage superchargers, and structural changes which markedly altered their appearance. The project was assigned the designation XP-40Q.

The first XP-40Q was P-40K-10-CU ser no 42-9987 fitted with a new cooling system, a longer nose, and a four-bladed propeller. The radiators were moved into an under-fuselage position, with intakes between the undercarriage legs.

The most prominent XP-40Q feature, used on 42-45722 and 43-24571, was the cutting down of the rear fuselage and the addition of a bubble canopy as on the "XP-40N". Later the wingtips were clipped. The result was an aircraft which bore almost no resemblance whatsoever to its parent P-40 line. The V-1710-121 engine was fitted with water injection, resulting in a power of 1425 hp. Speed increased to 422 mph at 20,500 feet, making it the fastest of all the P-40s. An altitude of 20,000 feet could be reached in 4.8 minutes, and service ceiling was 39,000 feet. Four 0.5-inch machine guns were carried by the prototypes. Wingspan was 35 feet 3 inches (after clipping), and length was 35 feet 4 inches (2 feet longer than the P-40N).

The proposed production models of the P-40Q were to have carried either six 0.50-inch machine guns or four 20-mm cannon, but the XP-40Q was still inferior to contemporary production Mustangs and Thunderbolts, and development was therefore abandoned. Consequently, the production life of the P-40 ended with the N version.

The second XP-40Q was briefly used for postwar air racing. Registered NX300B, the second XP-40Q was an unauthorized starter in the 1947 Thompson Trophy race. It was in fourth place when it caught fire and had to drop out of the race." (J. Baugher)

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Below a P-47G built by Curtiss with an XP-40Q & Cessna Bamboo Bomber in the background.

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Re: How to prevent a P-40 from ever having a sharks mouth? .

Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:43 pm

This one seemed to have been called the XP-40Q-2A. Much better looking iMHO.

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and for those who like the NMF look ...

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Re: How to prevent a P-40 from ever having a sharks mouth? .

Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:44 pm

No such luck ..... if there's a will ...

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Re: How to prevent a P-40 from ever having a sharks mouth? .

Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:46 pm

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Re: How to prevent a P-40 from ever having a sharks mouth? .

Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:50 pm

"The second XP-40Q was briefly used for postwar air racing. Registered NX300B, the second XP-40Q was an unauthorized starter in the 1947 Thompson Trophy race. It was in fourth place when it caught fire and had to drop out of the race." (J. Baugher)"

I guess you can call bailing out and crashing "dropping out" of the race..................

Re: How to prevent a P-40 from ever having a sharks mouth? .

Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:55 pm

kennsmithf2g wrote:I guess you can call bailing out and crashing "dropping out" of the race..................

"dropped out" .... in a ball of flames.

Re: How to prevent a P-40 from ever having a sharks mouth? .

Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:16 pm

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Re: How to prevent a P-40 from ever having a sharks mouth? .

Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:43 am

I've always liked the looks of the "Q", a slightly smaller-scale one would be a neat homebuilt.

Re: How to prevent a P-40 from ever having a sharks mouth? .

Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:48 pm

I too have always thought the XP-40Q was a fine looking ship. It's a real shame that NX300B came to such a sad ending. What a unique survivor it would have made!

PS - Looking at the pictures it sure seems like Curtiss was having a hard time settling on a canopy shape!

Re: How to prevent a P-40 from ever having a sharks mouth? .

Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:08 pm

Mark Allen M wrote:No such luck ..... if there's a will ...

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Ha ha, didn't see that one coming, 'bout spit beer all over my monitor! :lol: Ah yes, where there's a P-40, there's a way... :D

Wonderful stuff, thanks again Mr. M! 8)

Re: How to prevent a P-40 from ever having a sharks mouth? .

Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:42 pm

It has always looked to me to be a product of a midnight liaison with a P-40 and a Spit. Probably in North Africa.....

Re: How to prevent a P-40 from ever having a sharks mouth? .

Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:11 pm

looks Yakish to me from the side
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