Airworthy 109s/Buchon's as of August 2016

[marine air]

Harold"Bubba" Beal didn't have any money. It was all Chub Smiths. Charles aka "Chub" inherited the family newspaper and real state empire and had tons of money. Everything Bubba Beal flew or "owned" was directly tied into Chub Smith's personal fortune. Chub was quiet and unassuming. Bubba was larger than life, took credit for everything and had a great zeal for aviation and showing off. He was famous for his many accidents and escapades.

[DaveM2]

Kermit Weeks keeps posting pics of the Bf-109 that is being restored for him in Canada. I cant find it listed on either Axis Aircraft or Goodall's lists. Anyone know the ID of that bird?

Once again a new build with some original parts, but no identity (this may have changed by now).

The PAA website will be overhauled once we get time to do it - so not any time soon. We will have to farm that out I think.

[StangStung]

Kermit Weeks keeps posting pics of the Bf-109 that is being restored for him in Canada. I cant find it listed on either Axis Aircraft or Goodall's lists. Anyone know the ID of that bird?

Once again a new build with some original parts, but no identity (this may have changed by now).

The PAA website will be overhauled once we get time to do it - so not any time soon. We will have to farm that out I think.

We only have so many hours! Glad to know the PAA site is on the agenda for updating and at least in good hands in the interim.

[DarenC1]

The Erickson BuchonG-10 is a very, very cool project. The engineering for the modified front end is superb and it really looks the business.

I'm quite excited to see it fly - it'll definitely be a first!

[pjpahs]

Gerald Yagens FW190 Dora is Allison powered and has the exhaust routed correctly to mimic the Jumo 213, just wish it would fly. Been to Warbirds over the Beach 3 times and it is static, heard about possible problems about the Allison rebuild. But did get to see the ME 109 first flight and the Mosquitos flight its first year there.

[DoraNineFan]

Gerald Yagens FW190 Dora is Allison powered and has the exhaust routed correctly to mimic the Jumo 213, just wish it would fly. Been to Warbirds over the Beach 3 times and it is static, heard about possible problems about the Allison rebuild. But did get to see the ME 109 first flight and the Mosquitos flight its first year there.

Yagen's plan for the Allison Dora has been to refit it with proper Jumo 213, but it hasn't been a high priority. He owns the ID for another Dora wreck also. Others can elaborate if there were flight certification issues with it, but this has been discussed in other threads on Yagen's planes.

[DoraNineFan]

Surprised that nobody has brought up that Red 7 just had another incident. Things went wrong on takeoff and it aborted and ended up in tall grass, with a bent wingtip and buckled gear. So it will be down for repairs for a while.

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthre ... in-Germany

[JohnTerrell]

Surprised that nobody has brought up that Red 7 just had another incident. Things went wrong on takeoff and it aborted and ended up in tall grass, with a bent wingtip and buckled gear. So it will be down for repairs for a while.

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthre ... in-Germany

It did seem strange to hear the news on Friday, having only just recently been wondering, due to this thread, whether this aircraft had been flying this year or not (it took part in a number of air shows last year, but appeared to sit-out this season). This is now the 3rd takeoff-related accident that the aircraft has been involved in since '69 (the 6th accident over all, within that time), and the 4th accident/incident in the last 11 years resulting in significant damage/cause for major repairs. Since 2007, the EADS/Airbus/Messerschmitt Foundation group have had three potentially airworthy 109's, in the form of D-FWME, D-FMBB, and D-FDME, but, more often than not, only one or two have ever been able to remain flyable at any given time - with D-FWME damaged once again, all three aircraft remain currently down for servicing/repairs.

[C VEICH]

Surprised that nobody has brought up that Red 7 just had another incident. Things went wrong on takeoff and it aborted and ended up in tall grass, with a bent wingtip and buckled gear. So it will be down for repairs for a while.

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthre ... in-Germany

It did seem strange to hear the news on Friday, having only just recently been wondering, due to this thread, whether this aircraft had been flying this year or not (it took part in a number of air shows last year, but appeared to sit-out this season). This is now the 3rd takeoff-related accident that the aircraft has been involved in since '69 (the 6th accident over all, within that time), and the 4th accident/incident in the last 11 years resulting in significant damage/cause for major repairs. Since 2007, the EADS/Airbus/Messerschmitt Foundation group have had three potentially airworthy 109's, in the form of D-FWME, D-FMBB, and D-FDME, but, more often than not, only one or two have ever been able to remain flyable at any given time - with D-FWME damaged once again, all three aircraft remain currently down for servicing/repairs.

You've got to give them credit for their tenacity! Maybe now that their is an airworthy dual control 109 a training program of some sort will be established to allow pilots to gain experience on the type before going solo. And no, I am not insinuating that this particular accident was related to the pilot's experience or lack thereof.

[Lon Moer]

Surprised that nobody has brought up that Red 7 just had another incident. Things went wrong on takeoff and it aborted and ended up in tall grass, with a bent wingtip and buckled gear. So it will be down for repairs for a while.

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthre ... in-Germany

The left wing is seriously wrecked, but the prop looks like it didn't strike anything.

[Lon Moer]

This the PoF from 4 months ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwkGm4Dr1h8

[Neal Nurmi]

And this is the PoF example longer ago than that...

[Lon Moer]

And this is the PoF example longer ago than that...

I remember watching that happen.....in real slow motion...right in front of the home pylon.

[Warbird Kid]

Anyone know the story of Black 8 or how far along she is now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7g326N8r-g

[JohnTerrell]

Anyone know the story of Black 8 or how far along she is now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7g326N8r-g

I'm sorry for taking so long to get a reply to this.

The aircraft is based on the remains/identity of the Bf-109G-6 Wk.Nr.440738 which was salvaged near Melk, Austria, where it crashed on May 29, 1944 (the pilot, Lt. Frederick Schulte, survived, but would end up being listed as missing in action later in the war). The main rebuild of the airframe and engine began in 2007, in Austria, at Mike Rinner's shop (http://me-109.at/). The aircraft is almost entirely new build, but using as much original components as could be sourced and it is certified as the original (using the aircraft's original data plate, and I believe the rebuilt engine may even use the same data plate as the original used in the aircraft during the war as well). Rinner had the aircraft already well completed, and ground-run in Austria with the rebuilt DB 605A, when Hangar10/Air Fighter Academy sent the project to MeierMotors in 2013 for final completion - the fuselage arriving first, followed soon after by the wings, after Rinner had those completed. It was slated to be flown as early as 2014, but according to what others have stated, Hangar10 decided to make their Bf-109G-12 the priority, at Meier, to be completed/flying first, before they would take delivery of the G-6 "Black 8" (the work that had already been accomplished on "Black 8", such as all of the firewall-forward stuff, also seems to have been used for patterns/guides throughout the work done on Jerry Yagen's Bf-109G-4 and Hangar10's G-12, thus preventing "Black 8" from being fully finished/flown out the door). I wouldn't be surprised to see "Black 8" flying at any time in the near future.

As told, "Black 8" is owned by Hangar10/Air Fighter Accademy, based in Germany, and this is the same group that owns the Bf-109G-12 that MeierMotors just completed, as well as the TF-51D "Little-Ite", a Yak-9, and some other warbirds (including a static-only Bf-109G-14). At one time, I saw references to them also owning the Bf-109E Wk.Nr.1983, or at least it was speculated as such, which has been under restoration for over a decade (the main restoration of the fuselage/tail/firewall-forward was already completed at Craig Charleston's shop in England (to the highest of imaginable standard), and was to be combined with wings rebuilt or under rebuild in Germany), but I haven't seen any recent information on its current status/whereabouts, and I don't believe Hangar10 has ever mentioned anything about the aircraft themselves. Hangar10 also owned, for a time, the Spitfire Tr./Mk.IX MJ772, but it was sold last year and is now registered in the UK as G-AVAV (though is currently under restoration following a forced landing in England last summer, during which I believe was part of its delivery flight). At this time, MeierMotors is also working on completing the rebuild of a Flugwerk FW-190A for Hangar10, the same one that was owned by Christophe Jacquard and was involved in the ditching in the sea, off the French coast, back in 2009.