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Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:51 am
The newly arrived Lockheed 12 had a landing accident. After landing, it left the runway (caught by wind?) and hit a hangar. No one was hurt luckily.
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2018/07/01/piloot-parkeert-sportvliegtuigje-tegen-loods/
Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:30 am
Hard to tell for sure, but it looks like they landed with the tailwheel unlocked...
Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:04 am
Tell me that wasn't Sidney Cotton's airplane.
Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:32 pm
Dan Jones wrote:Tell me that wasn't Sidney Cotton's airplane.

The Lockheed 12 in the video is S/N 1252. The Sidney Cotton 12 is S/N 1203.
Unfortunate accident. Hope they can fix is up quick and get it back in the air soon.
For an overview of surviving Lockheed 12s see my web page...
http://flytoanothertime.com/lockheed10and12.html
Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:42 pm
What was in the hangar?
C2j
Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:47 pm
Cubs2jets wrote:What was in the hangar?
C2j
A Lockheed 12, or at least the front part of one
Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:26 pm
Wow!
That sucks. Glad no one was seriously hurt, but WTF!
Look at the video. The rudders deflect fully to the left just before the tail touches down, then they stay there.
Fast forward to 1:25 for the touchdown.
https://www.tvl.be/nieuws/vliegtuig-cra ... berg-61833Andy
Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:00 pm
Unfortunate accident. Glad it looks like no one was hurt beyond pride.
Does the L-12 have a steerable tailwheel? If you listen, in addition to the rudder being hard over as pointed out, you hear screeching of the tailwheel as it touches, suggesting it's being dragged instead of rolling along the direction of travel.
Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:20 pm
Very odd. It's tracking straight until the tail comes down. And the tail wheel appears to be straight.
Even if it was unlocked it wouldn't cause an immediate yaw like that.
It's as if as soon as the tail came down someone hammered on the brakes, and the left one grabbed or even locked.
Darn shame. Extremely expensive repair.
Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:08 am
All the 5 people aboard were pilots..... imagine the post-flight conversation..
Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:02 pm
First thing I thought of was Mickey Rooney and Buddy Hackett parking Jim Backus's Twin Beech in the restaurant...
Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:00 pm
Chris Brame wrote:First thing I thought of was Mickey Rooney and Buddy Hackett parking Jim Backus's Twin Beech in the restaurant...

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Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:50 pm
Matt Gunsch wrote:Cubs2jets wrote:What was in the hangar?
C2j
A Lockheed 12, or at least the front part of one

And I did laugh for real............hopefully the hangar wouldn't have caused too much damage just glad no one got hurt! This aircraft spent some time here in New Zealand too.
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