WWII German Fighter Resorations in the US/Canada - Updates

DoraNineFan · **Joined:** Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:37 pm **Posts:** 672

[quote="JohnTerrell"
Makes me think of all of the Fw-190's linked to Jerry Yagen and what the future may hold for those - Fw 190A-3 WkNr.5467, Fw 190A-8 WkNr.350177, Fw 190A-8 WkNr.732183, and Fw 190D-9 WkNr.211028. In a video shot earlier this year by Kermit Weeks, there was a Jumo 213 engine earmarked for Jerry Yagen at Mike Nixon's shop.[/quote]

From what I understand, the 213 was for Jerry Yagen to put into the Flugwerk Fw-190D-9 that was previously owned by Tom Blair. However it isn't a very high priority project and the aircraft is still sitting in Virginia Beach when it was supposed to be shipped out to begin the refit for the Jumo.

I've seen very little on his A-3 #5467, and his genuine D-9 #211028 would need to be a complete rebuild.

Michel Lemieux · **Posted:** Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:45 am

On the same line....Jerry Yagen also had a 109 E under rebuild.

It was on their old WEB site and was showing an advanced state of construction at least for the fuselage.

They also had an old Tupolev bomber showed as a project.

Any news on this airframe?

Tks for all the info and updates....really appreciated

DH82EH · **Posted:** Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:36 am

JohnTerrell wrote:

I know it's not the answers you're looking for, OD/NG, but I thought it a point to add as well that it is a fuselage that they have been working on over time as well. This photo from three years ago shows the same fuselage in the background and at that time it was not quite as complete as it is now. http://warbirdsnews.com/wp-content/uplo ... rizona.jpg

Makes me think of all of the Fw-190's linked to Jerry Yagen and what the future may hold for those - Fw 190A-3 WkNr.5467, Fw 190A-8 WkNr.350177, Fw 190A-8 WkNr.732183, and Fw 190D-9 WkNr.211028. In a video shot earlier this year by Kermit Weeks, there was a Jumo 213 engine earmarked for Jerry Yagen at Mike Nixon's shop.

Another interesting bit of info gleaned from that Weeks video was the mention of Jumo 211's (plural).
The only recipients for those would be Stuka and He111. We wanna see those too!

Andy

lmritger · **Posted:** Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:41 am

Yagen's Emil is a particularly special one; turns out WNr 2023 was flown by Wolfgang Lippert, Gruppenkommandeur of II./JG 27. Last I heard, it was slowly being worked on somewhere in eastern Europe; there had been a hold-up for a while as they were trying to source wing construction drawings, and apparently could not get them from Charleston Aero Services. It's been a couple years since I heard any updates on this one, though.

I, too, would love to see an update on the Fw 189 and Ju 87...

Lynn

DoraNineFan · **Joined:** Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:37 pm **Posts:** 672

DH82EH wrote:

Another interesting bit of info gleaned from that Weeks video was the mention of Jumo 211's (plural).
The only recipients for those would be Stuka and He111. We wanna see those too!

Andy

Weeks was touring Mike's shop for a very long time, but Mike was stuck in traffic before Kermit could talk with him and get a tour of his "special" shop with unique projects. The 211 work would have been interesting to hear about, although I wonder if some of those are static rebuilds for museums or private collectors. I would have liked to get Nixon's take on the German engines.

The only 211s that I know about are one that is intended for the Stuka and two that were already finished by Dirke Bende in Germany. I had assumed the two in Bende's shop were for an He-111 project, perhaps the one that is now in Austria.

OD/NG · **Joined:** Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:36 pm **Posts:** 750

DH82EH wrote:

JohnTerrell wrote:

I know it's not the answers you're looking for, OD/NG, but I thought it a point to add as well that it is a fuselage that they have been working on over time as well. This photo from three years ago shows the same fuselage in the background and at that time it was not quite as complete as it is now. http://warbirdsnews.com/wp-content/uplo ... rizona.jpg

Makes me think of all of the Fw-190's linked to Jerry Yagen and what the future may hold for those - Fw 190A-3 WkNr.5467, Fw 190A-8 WkNr.350177, Fw 190A-8 WkNr.732183, and Fw 190D-9 WkNr.211028. In a video shot earlier this year by Kermit Weeks, there was a Jumo 213 engine earmarked for Jerry Yagen at Mike Nixon's shop.

Another interesting bit of info gleaned from that Weeks video was the mention of Jumo 211's (plural).
The only recipients for those would be Stuka and He111. We wanna see those too!

Andy

Not the only ones! Paul Allen has a Junkers Ju-88 that is under restoration as well. The Ju-88 used the Jumo 211.

DH82EH · **Posted:** Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:02 pm

Which Ju-88 does he have?
I think I can safely speak for the whole of WIX when I say that we wanna see that too!!

I'd certainly love to hear what Mike Nixon would have had to say.
I suspect it might be something along the lines of "Shhh.... shut it!!" :lol:

Andy

OD/NG · **Joined:** Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:36 pm **Posts:** 750

DH82EH wrote:

Which Ju-88 does he have?
I think I can safely speak for the whole of WIX when I say that we wanna see that too!!

I'd certainly love to hear what Mike Nixon would have had to say.
I suspect it might be something along the lines of "Shhh.... shut it!!" :lol:

Andy

Sorry, I don't know any details.

Spitty · **Posted:** Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:31 pm

Didnt Gosshawk also do a Fw190 for Norway?

DaveM2 · **Posted:** Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:36 am

Spitty wrote:

Didnt Gosshawk also do a Fw190 for Norway?

No, that was Mark Timken, previous owner of White 1

DoraNineFan · **Joined:** Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:37 pm **Posts:** 672

Spitty wrote:

Didnt Gosshawk also do a Fw190 for Norway?

Both the Fw-190 for Norway and White 1 were initially done at the Texas Air Museum but the quality of work was unsatisfactory. Mark Timkin completed the example for Norway in exchange for assistance with White 1. After White 1 was sold to the Collings Foundation the work continues at Gosshawk.

DH82EH · **Posted:** Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:14 pm

I'd like to add another request to the wish list.

I'm pretty sure Paul Allen also bought the Messerschmitt 110's that got recovered by Jim Pearce.

Has anyone heard any more about those? I think there were two substantial airframes.

Andy

DaveM2 · **Posted:** Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:15 pm

DH82EH wrote:

I'd like to add another request to the wish list.

I'm pretty sure Paul Allen also bought the Messerschmitt 110's that got recovered by Jim Pearce.

Has anyone heard any more about those? I think there were two substantial airframes.

Andy

They are owned by the German Technical Museum, Berlin. One (the 110F) has been restored and on display for several years. The 110E was used as a parts source and last I heard was in store with them.
Both were initially sold to Sir Tim Wallis here in NZ, but were sadly offloaded following his accident.

DH82EH · **Posted:** Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:24 pm

Thanks Dave.

Appreciated.

Andy

DoraNineFan · **Joined:** Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:37 pm **Posts:** 672

DH82EH wrote:

I'd like to add another request to the wish list.

I'm pretty sure Paul Allen also bought the Messerschmitt 110's that got recovered by Jim Pearce.

Has anyone heard any more about those? I think there were two substantial airframes.

Andy

Pearce recovered three Bf-110s. The best example went to the Technical Museum, Berlin with a second as a parts source. I believe the third is privately owned with enough material for a flier some day, but not owned by Allen.

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