This is the place where the majority of the warbird (aircraft that have survived military service) discussions will take place. Specialized forums may be added in the new future
Thu May 18, 2006 5:27 pm
Looks like I will be driving back east to put a engine on a C-45 and get it ready to fly to Az. I was told it needs a battery, but I can't find out what battery it takes, does anyone know what battery it is ? This is a 1:1 scale, built by Beech, so I know duracells are out.
Thu May 18, 2006 5:39 pm
I believe that it takes a GE-50 or 51. It may take two, one in each wing center section. Its been a while since I worked on a C-45. Also, originally it had Cannon connectors, howver, some times they are replace by Elcon connectors. It would behoove you to see which connectors and if the two batteries are needed before you open your checkbook.
Fri May 19, 2006 12:02 am
Matt Gunsch wrote: This is a 1:1 scale, built by Beech, so I know duracells are out.
Might ask here on their forum Matt,
www.beech18.net They may even know this
particular bird and 'er details.
Fri May 19, 2006 8:44 am
Airnutz, whats in the AT-11 is it different than the Volpar ?
Fri May 19, 2006 11:07 am
AT-11 Kansan was the glazed nosed trainer often fitted with a Crocker Wheeler Turret -
The Volpar was a tri gear C-45 conversion from the 60s-70s
See our site for the differences between 'our' resident Volpar and our D.18S
www.beechrestorations.com
TT
Fri May 19, 2006 11:24 am
TexanTomcat, I was asking Airnutz which batteries were in those two particular aircraft because they are both at Lone Satr Flight Museum where he volunteers. Since they are Beech 18/C-45 variants, I thought he might be able to help Matt out with his request for information.
Fri May 19, 2006 11:27 am
Oh sorry - only trying to help!
TT
Fri May 19, 2006 11:48 am
No sweat!
Fri May 19, 2006 12:40 pm
Try Taigh Ramey. They do an awful lot of twin Beech restoration and maintenance. Alan
http://www.twinbeech.com/vintage_aircraft.htm
Fri May 19, 2006 2:30 pm
TEXANTOMCAT wrote:Oh sorry - only trying to help!
TT
Fuhhgettaboutit TT, I too misread Ricks question in the same way you did.
Incidentally in regards to the Volpar Beech 18's...not all Volpar 18's were trikes.
Early Volpar mods involved exec interiors, slight nose-job..I think to move
the instrument panel fwd a bit giving the pilots more room. If you chose
tricycle-gear, then that was simply another option. The trike package was
certainly one of the most popular and prominent mods. I'm no expert on the Model 18
but I've read a fair bit, that's why I suggested the website to Matt. He can
also try an e-mail to Mr. Raimy @
www.twinbeech.com
As a kid I wrenched on an 18 and they've a special place in my heart...
Hot July day,"Hey skinny kid! Take this grease gun and crawl back to the
tailwheel and service it."
Fri May 19, 2006 2:46 pm
Sorry guys. I should have been more specific in the original post. Actual use of the word "battery" might have eliminated any confusion. I'm going to go work on my communications skills now.
Fri May 19, 2006 2:56 pm
RickH wrote:TexanTomcat, I was asking Airnutz which batteries were in those two particular aircraft because they are both at Lone Satr Flight Museum where he volunteers. Since they are Beech 18/C-45 variants, I thought he might be able to help Matt out with his request for information.
This is the 2cond time in as many weeks that someone has suggested that
I'm a volunteer at LSFM..I DO NOT work/volunteer at LSFM...PLEASE STOP SENDING
ME THESE SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES...donning foil skullcap now
But Rick, if I did vol there I would certainly have made the effort to compare the two.
However in reading on many of the conversions done to model 18's and
Lodestars etc. I doubt that they are standard over the years. Some are
mixed and matched mods, Volpar tricycle gear with a Hamilton cargo door..There's one nut on the 1st website forum who runs Honda batteries in his 18!
Check out this birds history to get an idea what I mean...
www.flyinghigher.net/beech/N5653D.php
Very nice photos of Beech 18's on floats ehhh?
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airnutz on Fri May 19, 2006 3:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Fri May 19, 2006 3:48 pm
This is the 2cond time in as many weeks that someone has suggested that I volunteer at LSFM..I DO NOT work/volunteer at LSFM.
I have, as they say, no dog in that fight.
I looked at the facts and jumped to an obvious but apparently wrong conclusion.
Airnutz+warbird enthusiast+Galveston+Lone Star = Volunteer
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Fri May 19, 2006 4:41 pm
I used to work at the LSFM, from 1995 until 2001 and did several annuals on the H18, and performed the conformity inspection when the AT-11 received its airworthiness certificate, but can't remember the specifics of batteries. I've also annualed and performed maintenance on D18's, E18's, 3NM's, C-45H's, SNB's and TC-45J's. They are each different in their own ways, thats why the different designations. This doesn't take into account the numerous field modifications done after the manuals were printed.
Sat May 20, 2006 8:02 am
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Fuhhgettaboutit TT, I too misread Ricks question in the same way you did.
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