P-38 "Scatterbrain Kid" question

[Warbird Kid]

So wheres SBK II these days?

[spookythecat]

So wheres SBK II these days?

At Westpac being restored for Flying Heritage Collection.

http://www.westpacrestorations.com/inde ... lightening

[gary1954]

So wheres SBK II these days?

At Westpac being restored for Flying Heritage Collection.

http://www.westpacrestorations.com/inde ... lightening

I just looked at the Westpac website....where did this "White 33" come from??

[JohnTerrell]

Some information about White 33 can be found here: http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/p ... 12652.html

As this page also indicates, the P-38J "Jandina III" (http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/p ... 03988.html) is also reportedly at Westpac, for restoration to flying condition as well, as some sites report. This airframe was said to have been owned by the Flying Heritage Collection, but now certain sites are saying that it will be going back to Australia when complete.

A couple of very interesting combat-vet P-38 wrecks/restoration projects, are also registered to Jerry Yagen/Fighter Factory/Military Aviation Museum, with Precision Aerospace in Australia.

[Rob Mears]

Are there any surviving P-38M models still in existence that could receive that blown passenger canopy to make for an authentic night fighter Lightning?

[Jerry O'Neill]

I believe the P-38 at the Museum of Flight in Seattlle is an "M" model as that radar operators cockpit on SBK2 was originally on Champlin's P-38, They removed it to make it more "normal" looking.
Jerry

[bluehawk15]

Yes, we got the "backseat" from the Champlin museum. Traded them for the original one we had. Champlin bought the P-38 from John Stokes, and if I remember what John told me, it was one of three L/M models...that is it was one of three L models converted over to an M for proof of concept for the radio/radar operator.

[T J Johansen]

Yes, we got the "backseat" from the Champlin museum. Traded them for the original one we had. Champlin bought the P-38 from John Stokes, and if I remember what John told me, it was one of three L/M models...that is it was one of three L models converted over to an M for proof of concept for the radio/radar operator.

As far as I know the 38 was owned by Cecil Harp and Bob Ennis in CA before Champlin bought it.

T J

[RandolphB]

Yes, we got the "backseat" from the Champlin museum. Traded them for the original one we had. Champlin bought the P-38 from John Stokes, and if I remember what John told me, it was one of three L/M models...that is it was one of three L models converted over to an M for proof of concept for the radio/radar operator.

As far as I know the 38 was owned by Cecil Harp and Bob Ennis in CA before Champlin bought it.

T J

Is this the same P-38 that had been owned by Johnny Bolton in Florida during the 70's?

[garbs]

N3JB 44-53097 (owned by John Bolton) at Oshkosh 1974.











Went to Harlingen twice ('75 and '81) but only saw "White Lightning" fly. Is this part of SBK in the shop?

[bluehawk15]

I could be wrong, since I forgot that the plane didn't go to Champlin directly from John Stokes, but the SBK II did go to Harlingen from La Fayette for a short time before John Stokes agreed to underwrite the restoration of it. It was in that shade of OD primer when it came to San Marcos, but I thought it had the photo recon patch on the outboard of one side of the vertical. Might be the side we can't see? So many years ago!

[Mark Allen M]

Old thread yet an inquiry.

It would be interesting and relatively authentic to have a P-38 converted to a P-38M like SBK back in the day.

Sounds like something right up the alley for the Collings Foundation folks. Doesn't seem like such a far fetched idea. I'm sure a P-38M type rear seat wouldn't be look difficult to fabricate IMHO anyway.

Just a thought.

[old iron]

There was an article about a surviving P-38M in an issue of Airpower that I remember from childhood - so, 1970s. I have always wondered about this, but I find no mention in the Surviving P-38s Wikipedia page or on the registry here.

So what happened to it, or is my memory (seems to be happening more and more).

Converted from an L postwar into an M and then converted back?

[mike furline]

There was an article about a surviving P-38M in an issue of Airpower that I remember from childhood - so, 1970s. I have always wondered about this, but I find no mention in the Surviving P-38s Wikipedia page or on the registry here.

So what happened to it, or is my memory (seems to be happening more and more).

Converted from an L postwar into an M and then converted back?

Both of these seem to have some "M" history.
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p38regis ... 53095.html
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p38regis ... 53097.html

[Lon Moer]

There was an article about a surviving P-38M in an issue of Airpower that I remember from childhood - so, 1970s. I have always wondered about this, but I find no mention in the Surviving P-38s Wikipedia page or on the registry here.

So what happened to it, or is my memory (seems to be happening more and more).

Converted from an L postwar into an M and then converted back?

Both of these seem to have some "M" history.
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p38regis ... 53095.html
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p38regis ... 53097.html