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Re: Why are these still used?

Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:44 pm

hercules130 wrote:To my knowledge, which is limited to 22 years of C-130 operations and maintenance experience; which in the life of the C-130 is not long, three C-130s have lost their wings in flight. I assume the evidence you are basing your statement on (forgive me if I am wrong and I would be very interested in knowing what other reason/evidence you base your assertion on) is the video of C-130A N130HP crashing in Walker, CA. The A model is structurally very different than the aircraft that crashed in Australia and to compare these two is not logical. I am not going to get into statistics, they seem to cause more harm than good and questions than answers, plus it seems you know how to use the internet, That being said few aircraft can match the safety record of the C-130, and when you take out losses to enemy action the safety record enters the realm of modern airliners. When the C-130's mission sets and flight profiles are compared to that of airliners her numbers become even more impressive. The C-130 is not only still used, but she is also still being manufactured and will be for at least another 8 years with current orders.


I was at an airshow with the Stearman a few years ago and at the time was an L-100/L-382 civvy Herc pilot, and I got talking in the bar with the C-17 crew that had come up for the show from (I think) McQuire AFB. Naturally we were talking shop and telling war stories and comparing the C-17 to the C-130, etc. Downing his last beer the Globemaster skipper got up from the table and looked over at me and said "When the last C-17 goes to the boneyard, do you know what's gonna happen?"

"Ya - the crew's gonna catch a ride home in the back of a Herc" I replied, having heard that joke before.

But I'd bet a hundred dollars it'll be true.
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Re: Why are these still used?

Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:21 am

Saw some video of the accident site yesterday. Structural failure probably was not an issue.

Re: Why are these still used?

Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:43 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... kage-video

Re: Why are these still used?

Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:57 pm

Joe Scheil wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/video/2020/jan/25/black-box-recovered-from-c-130-bushfire-plane-wreckage-video


Its a bit strange they stop and don't show the full entry path, its not clear enough or close enough to see much other than burned and wrecked parts.


Then there is this one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Chil ... -130_crash

These planes go down more often than the max 8 did.
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Re: Why are these still used?

Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:10 pm

Looks to have impacted at a very shallow angle

Re: Why are these still used?

Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:36 am

exhaustgases wrote:These planes go down more often than the max 8 did.


That was in poor taste and completely unnecessary.

Re: Why are these still used?

Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:37 am

The vague thread title and inconsiderate tone of its author remind me why I spend less time and share less on WIX in recent years. It is hardly an “information exchange” in this case.

RIP to the crew and I hope the cause can be identified and shared with the aviation community.

Ken
4000 hours C-130

Re: Why are these still used?

Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:35 pm

Dan Jones wrote:"When the last C-17 goes to the boneyard, do you know what's gonna happen?"

"Ya - the crew's gonna catch a ride home in the back of a Herc" I replied, having heard that joke before.

But I'd bet a hundred dollars it'll be true.
Well, the C-130J is still in production, the C-17 isn't. The KC-390 may be a viable C-130 replacement for many operators. C-17s will likely be operated, at least by the USAF, into the 2040s.
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