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Re: BT-13 s/n 41-11538

Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:15 pm

marine air wrote:Hey guys, have a BT-13 question. Chuck Yeager and Bob Hoover mentioned in their books about BT-13s. Apparently post war at Muroc Army Airfield there was one or more BT-13’svused as hacks or general purposes like flight currency.
Has anyone ever seen pictures of these NACA/ NASA BT’s and what their paint scheme might have been?


Here is a photo of a NACA SNV, dated 1944.

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Re: BT-13 s/n 41-11538

Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:22 pm

marine air wrote:Hey guys, have a BT-13 question. Chuck Yeager and Bob Hoover mentioned in their books about BT-13s. Apparently post war at Muroc Army Airfield there was one or more BT-13’svused as hacks or general purposes like flight currency.
Has anyone ever seen pictures of these NACA/ NASA BT’s and what their paint scheme might have been?



This document has a partial photo of a BT-13 on the dedication page near the beginning of the book, and a full photo on page 68 (figure 20).

https://history.nasa.gov/monograph26.pdf

Re: BT-13 s/n 41-11538

Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:57 pm

jdeters79 wrote:This document has a partial photo of a BT-13 on the dedication page near the beginning of the book, and a full photo on page 68 (figure 20).

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If that's N62644, looks like it's a survivor (although it didn't keep the dorsal fin):
http://aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDossier ... rial=29505
Odd that the photo is dated 1944 but it doesn't have an "NC" registration.

Re: BT-13 s/n 41-11538

Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:15 pm

Thanks for posting pics. Thought it would’ve had the yellow band on the tail and NACA logo. Looks more like a civilian paint scheme or flying club type of paint scheme.

Also, while a total guess, maybe the striping was red,blue, and white. A poputheme so soon after World War II.

Re: BT-13 s/n 41-11538

Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:21 pm

Chris Brame wrote:If that's N62644, looks like it's a survivor (although it didn't keep the dorsal fin):
http://aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDossier ... rial=29505
Odd that the photo is dated 1944 but it doesn't have an "NC" registration.


Interesting.

Looking closer at the photo in the book, it appears that it had some sort of shorter/clipped wing tips as well.

The TCDS for the BT-13 shows a "wing tip modification" from the "Clover Clip Company". Wonder if the photo is of that mod?

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/37b09588990dd4a58525673e005ab218/$FILE/A-2-571.pdf

Re: BT-13 s/n 41-11538

Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:23 pm

marine air wrote:Thanks for posting pics. Thought it would’ve had the yellow band on the tail and NACA logo. Looks more like a civilian paint scheme or flying club type of paint scheme.

Also, while a total guess, maybe the striping was red,blue, and white. A poputheme so soon after World War II.


May have been civilian owned and on lease/contract to the test pilot school. This is a relatively common practice today.

Re: BT-13 s/n 41-11538

Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:33 pm

Back to the original topic. 41-11538 almost ready for paint.

https://www.facebook.com/CommemorativeAirForceMinnesotaWing/posts/10156877840073567

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Remnants of the original yellow paint on the wing can be seen on the main landing gear attach fitting in this photo;

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Re: BT-13 s/n 41-11538

Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:20 pm

A few more recent pictures of the MN Wing BT-13 progress to return her to her original Greenville colors/markings as described earlier in this thread.

https://www.facebook.com/CommemorativeAirForceMinnesotaWing/posts/10156995695193567:0

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https://www.facebook.com/CommemorativeAirForceMinnesotaWing/posts/10157068936428567

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https://www.facebook.com/CommemorativeAirForceMinnesotaWing/posts/10157104026633567

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Re: BT-13 s/n 41-11538

Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:06 pm

Looks Amazing!
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Re: BT-13 s/n 41-11538

Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:09 pm

A major piece of returning her to her original livery. 'GR104' stencil in place with scuffing of paint in preparation for white fuselage code to be sprayed.

https://www.facebook.com/CommemorativeAirForceMinnesotaWing/posts/10157148265783567

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Re: BT-13 s/n 41-11538

Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:15 pm

'U.S. ARMY' stencil applied on the lower wing skin (has subsequently been painted). Note the 'GR104' on the fuselage, the result of the previously discussed research in this thread.

https://www.facebook.com/CommemorativeAirForceMinnesotaWing/posts/10157195282253567:0

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Re: BT-13 s/n 41-11538

Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:10 pm

https://www.facebook.com/CommemorativeAirForceMinnesotaWing/posts/10157225695068567

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Re: BT-13 s/n 41-11538

Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:52 pm

A video update providing a look at the history of the airplane and some of the research conducted.

Re: BT-13 s/n 41-11538

Sun May 24, 2020 11:24 am

I'm happy to report the CAF MN Wing BT-13 is gracing the skies once again.

For the Facebook users out there, video of the return to service flight here (flown by Mark Novak);

https://www.facebook.com/CommemorativeA ... 554598477/

A few photos from follow on training/pilot proficiency flights;

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Re: BT-13 s/n 41-11538

Sun May 24, 2020 12:01 pm

Looks like a real beauty!
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