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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:42 pm 
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What is that white on the back of the C-133 wings? Almost looks like censure marks you see on WW2 pictures.Or is it that white spray lat stuff?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:01 pm 
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lucky52 wrote:
What is that white on the back of the C-133 wings? Almost looks like censure marks you see on WW2 pictures.Or is it that white spray lat stuff?


I do not know what it is called, but it is an effect created by the digital nature of the photography. I have noticed it in other Google Earth images as well.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:13 pm 
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Larry,

Thanks for the info.

Here's a pic from when they reloaded tankers at Chino, May 1961.

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Thanks for the picture Sledge. I got into the tanker business in 1963 in Goleta at age 15. I rode out to the airport on my bicycle and managed to be adopted by the guys at the tanker base and was put to work mixing Borate (last year it was used) and loading tankers during heavy fire activity. I was lucky enough to be more or less accepted as an unpaid mascot in slower times that year and worked more regularly as a loader through 1967 just before I entered the Army.

So, I’m pretty knowledgeable pertaining to at least the California tanker scene from 1963, although I was otherwise occupied from late 1967 through late August 1970. Prior to 1963 I’ve just seen pictures and heard stories about tankers. The use of TBMs and larger tankers really didn’t start until 1959 or 1960.


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Larry we always appreciate your comments and wealth of information. It’s always “ top shelf.” Did you take a break from it in 1967 to 1970? Military service?


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Larry we always appreciate your comments and wealth of information. It’s always “ top shelf.” Did you take a break from it in 1967 to 1970? Military service?


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I spent January through March 1968 at Fort Ord in basic training and April through July at Fort Eustis in AIT training as an aircraft engine repairman (MOS 68B20). I arrived in Vietnam in early August of 1968 and went to Phu Bai working in the engine shop of C Co. 15th TC of the 1st Cav. In November 1968 the 1st Cav and 101st Airborne switched A.O.s and I went from Hue to Saigon on an old LST.

We moved into a major air base at Long Than North. That ended up too much like stateside service and I was able to get myself attached to DS2 (a 20 man direct support maintenance unit) at Phouc Vinh supporting mainly 1/9 Cav, 227th AHB, 228th AHB, 229th AHB and a few others. There wasn’t a lot of straight engine work, so I cross trained into airframe maintenance earning secondary MOSs of 67N20, 67V20 and 67Y20. Those were more or less crew chief on UH-1, OH-6 and AH-1.

In August 1969 I extended my tour and ended up flying in OH-6As with White Platoon (Scouts) C Troop 1/9 Cav also based out of Phouc Vinh. That was either the best or worst decision of my life. We flew from first light to last light with a Cobra gunship and seldom got above 500 feet, hot rearmed and refueled and pulled aircraft maintenance every 3rd night. The life expectancy in scouts was 3 months. I managed to survive through mid August 1970 when I got a 5 month early out from the Army for extending twice and ending up with less than 5 months remaining on my enlistment.

I ended up getting shot down once, had a couple of forced landings due to combat damage and have a drawer full of medals including a Purple Heart and a Silver Star for what that’s worth.


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Larry.

Great info, and thanks for your service...

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Larry Kraus wrote:

I ended up getting shot down once, had a couple of forced landings due to combat damage and have a drawer full of medals including a Purple Heart and a Silver Star for what that’s worth.


I'm sure all of us on here would agree that the Silver Star and Purple Heart count for a hell of a lot, I'm not a US citizen but I still extend my gratitude to you.


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Thanks for the kind words guys. I’ve always considered every day of my life after 12 December 1969 to be a bonus. There was no reason that I should have survived that Bad Day near Fire Base Mary, especially relatively intact and ready to go back to flying Scouts a few days later. I suppose that living on borrowed time for over 50 years is a real bargain. I have tried to make the most of it.


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I always appreciate your input Larry.
Your first hand knowledge and kind demeanor are hilights of this WIX site.

To you sir :drink3:

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The C-133s aren't the only interesting aircraft in that boneyard. I spy with my little eye... a Convair jetliner that looks like it might be a 990!


That's definitely a 990..the "shock pods" on the wings are a dead giveaway. I wonder what it's story is?

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Steve Nelson wrote:
K5DH wrote:
The C-133s aren't the only interesting aircraft in that boneyard. I spy with my little eye... a Convair jetliner that looks like it might be a 990!


That's definitely a 990..the "shock pods" on the wings are a dead giveaway. I wonder what it's story is?

SN

Wikipedia has one listed in storage at Mojave with Scroggins Aviation formely of Aerolineas Peruanes and there is another one at the front entrance. I remember for years there was quite a few 880's stored there as well.


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The last time I was there was circa 1986...saw the Beech Starship POC article and the OMAC Laser pusher turboprop as well as the twin engine
T-33 Skyfox prototype.
That was in addition to the various Flight Systems stuff; Sabres and F-100s.

Also on that trip I stopped in At the Bell distributor at Can Nuts looking for
Airwolf, sure enough, they had it on the ramp. It took some fast talking (and my military ID) to get on the ramp for photos.

I really should look at my slides again...

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