1951 Northrop YC-125B for exchange

[Tulio]

Same as the PA-48 the NMUSAF is offering this airplane for exchange.

It is similarly advertised as not suitable for flight...


https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit ... p-yc-125b/

Saludos,


Tulio

[jcochr50]

The YC-125B in Exchange for WHAT??

[quemerford]

This was available for sale/exchange about a year ago surely?

[Chris Brame]

Yes it was, and don't call me Shirley .
IIRC this was flown in to the museum in the late '80s (after the one they were supposed to get, 48-634, cracked up during the ferry flight), so maybe it could be put back in the air again? Has the Castle museum looked into it?

A bunch of them went into civilian hands post-USAF service; like the other survivor at Pima; anyone have photos?

[PinecastleAAF]

Yeah that's a funny, good luck with that.

[Dan Jones]

Didn't Elmer Ward donate that? Or traded it to them?

[JohnH]

Ascher Ward. This article on the previous airplane is hilarious as neither him nor Darryl were ever up to anything like this.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/oklahoman. ... nquiry/amp

[Tulio]

A bunch of them went into civilian hands post-USAF service; like the other survivor at Pima; anyone have photos?

Here are some images of YC-125s, the group photo I believe, was shot in Guatemala.

I do not have information as to the photo owners.

The data below, provided by Mr. Martin Wienert and Jay:


Nortrhop YC-125

Originally Posted by Martin Wienert
Sorry, slightly off thread...
I have eight or nine YC-125 in Latin-America
2503 TG-DAH-84 Jose Luis Arenas
2505 PZ-TAO Surinaamse Luchtvaart Maatschappij (Surinam AW) Netherlands Guiana (replacement for TAD)
2516 PZ-TAD Surinaamse Luchtvaart Maatschappij (Surinam AW) del as N2570B
2507 CP-651 South American Placers
2508 CP-631 Corporación Minera de Bolivia
2515 CP-650 South American Placers
2510 XA-LOU Servicios Aereos de Chiapas
2512 XA-LOV Servicios Aereos de Chiapas
2520 XA-GEY Triplay y Maderas de Durango / Servisios Aereos Especiales SAESA
???? XA-KUY noted Mexico City 1966


http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../5/1332524.jpg

"N2569B / 12 (cn 2515) Perhaps these are some of the aircraft bought by Frank Ambrose for bush operations in South America. This is a rare photo of a rare aircraft. I believe there are actually 4 Raiders in this photo. Taken by my father William G. Ebert.
More: Miami - International (Wilcox Field / 36th Street / Pan American Field) (MIA / KMIA)
More: USA - Florida, 1957

So the 3 pictured acft may be on this list:

"From the 1946-1948 USAAF Serial Numbers via http://www.afhra.af.mil/ and http://home.att.net/~jbaugher/usafserials.html

48-618/627 Northrop YC-125B Raider
c/n 2502/2511

618 (c/n 2502) flew as N4050K.
619 (c/n 2503) to Frank Ambrose Aviation, Miami as N6521B
620 (c/n 2504) to Frank Ambrose Aviation, Miami as N2562B
621 (c/n 2505) to N2563B with Frank Ambrose Aviation, Miami.Reported W/O Aug 15, 1960, but seen Miami Int'l May 21, 1964 with Ambrose tls.
623 (c/n 2507) to civil registry as N4194A (CP-651)
624 (c/n 2508) to civil registry as N2564B with Quipco Associates, Hialeah, FL (CP-631)
625 (c/n 2509) to civil registry as N2565B with Frank Ambrose Aviation, Miami
626 (c/n 2510) on display at USAF Museum, marked as 48-622
627 (c/n 2511) to civil registry as N2567B with Frank Ambrose Aviation, Miami.

48-628/640 Northrop YC-125A Raider
c/n 2512/2524

629 (c/n 2513) to civil registry as N2568B with Frank Ambrose Aviation, Miami
631 (c/n 2515) to civil registry as N2569B (CP-650)
632 (c/n 2516) to civil registry as N2570B with Frank Ambrose Aviation of Miami. Leased by Surinam (Surinaamse Luchtvaart Maatschappij - SLM) from Ambrose Aviation as PZ-TAO, Jun 11, 1959 nosed over Coeroeni, repaired. Jan 12, 1959 Kayser Mountains Airstrip; nosed over again. Repaired and flown back but severely damaged during bad landing.
633 (c/n 2517) to civil registry as N2571B with Frank Ambrose Aviation of Miami
634 (c/n 2518) to civil registry as N3756Q
635 (c/n 2519) to civil registry as N2572B with Frank Ambrose Aviation of Miami
636 (c/n 2520) at Pima Air and Space Museum, Tucson, AZ displayed as XB-GEY.
637 (c/n 2521) to civil registry as N2574B with Frank Ambrose Aviation of Miami
638 (c/n 2521) to civil registry as N2575B with Frank Ambrose Aviation of Miami
639 (c/n 2522) to civil registry as N2576B with Frank Ambrose Aviation of Miami
640 (c/n 2523) to civil registry as N2577B with Frank Ambrose Aviation of Miami"

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-w...z-9-print.html

Thanks for the info!

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/p ... hp?t=17753


Jay
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Joined: 10 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: YC 125 Reply with quote
The YC-125 in question is now located at Wright-Patterson AFB. The aircraft was formerly located in Zacateas Mexico. It was purchased by Asher Ward and Daryl Greenameyer after they crashed a YC 125 in route to the Air Force Museum for a trade deal. The aircraft was disassembled and transported to Rockford, IL for paint work and etc. Later transported by truck to Wright-Patterson.
I know this to be true because I almost bought the aircraft while it was in Zacateas. Small problem. I was told that the aircraft was a FORD Trimotor with the engines removed. Nice flight to Zacatecas for nothing but a good steak dinner. I tried to sell the aircraft to the Air Force Museum but they told me they were getting one from Asher and Daryl. After their ill-fated flight, I tried to sell the aircraft to Asher but he was in Mexico purchasing my aircraft. (actually I never owned the aircraft, I was just trying to sell it before buying it) Asher made the purchase and the rest is history.

Jaybo



Saludos,


Tulio

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[Tulio]

The YC-125B in Exchange for WHAT??

https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Colle ... e-Program/

The items posted at this site may be dispositioned by exchange under the authority of Title 10 of the US Code, Section 2572, which allows the NMUSAF to offer items not needed by the museum for items or services that will benefit the USAF National Historical Collection.

NMUSAF accomplishes exchanges through a documented proposal and agreement process and does not provide items by direct sale. The museum utilizes exchanges to obtain: rare aircraft, engines, other artifacts; or restoration, transportation, conservation, or educational items or services.

Notices of proposed items for exchange include the name of the item(s), a brief description with images, and proposal information materials, to include contact information.

Saludos,


Tulio

[marine air]

Sometimes timing is everything. Twenty years ago the guy in Minnesota that collected tri-motors would’ve paid a fortune. Ironically, he also never bought a JU-52. Meanwhile they’re for sale with Platinum Fighter Sales.

It’s going to be interesting to see where it ends up. It wasn’t an important aircraft in the U.S. military.

[marine air]

Sometimes timing is everything. Twenty years ago the guy in Minnesota that collected tri-motors would’ve paid a fortune. Ironically, he also never bought a JU-52. Meanwhile they’re for sale with Platinum Fighter Sales.

It’s going to be interesting to see where it ends up. It wasn’t an important aircraft in the U.S. military.

[Avnut]

Just dumb! If it served in the Air Force, the plane should be in the museum! Its not like we are building a variety of aircraft types these days compared to the 1940s - 60s.

The Piper Enforcer now, that is understandable. It does belong in an aviation museum somewhere.

[Chris Brame]

And a few of the YC-125s were scrapped in the Southeast, per Forgotten Field - that's apparently how he and a few other collectors ended up with several of the control column/rudder pedal units (which at the time no one could identify).

Well, if the NMUSAF is done with them, I'd think the Enforcer would be at home in Pima and the Raider would be a good fit at either Dover or Castle - any other suggestions?

Thanks big time for the photos, mi estimado Tulio!

[Tulio]

Thanks big time for the photos, mi estimado Tulio!

Por nada, mi estimado Chris.

I think thst the photo with the 3 aircraft, was shot by Dr. Gary Kuhn in Miami.


Saludos,


Tulio