B-25 Carol Jean

APG85 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:25 pm

Anyone out there know why the NASM hasn't put this aircraft on display? It flew in to Dulles several years ago with a good paint job, went into covered storage, and hasn't been seen since. It should be "display ready" but it sits in storage. Any ideas?

C170BDan · **Posted:** Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:51 pm

When I saw this B25 it not really display ready. Also... these airplanes will make it to display as the workers have time to get to them. Remember there are HUNDREDS of airplanes in the collection! Give them some time.... as we have already seen... they are working toward displaying all of the collection.

DaveM2 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:04 pm

Dan

Agree entirely, people should realize there are a limited amount of staff, many are volunteers, and that it isn't only 'warbirds' that are being worked on. There is a huge workload which includes early aviation and Space - so no point in complaining that a particular aircraft you want to see isn't on display.....me I want to see the Go229 .....NOW!!

Dave

APG85 · **Posted:** Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:09 am

I think it's reasonable to question why an aircraft that flew in under it's own power, that was in decent shape (I have seen it), went into covered storage, never made it over to the Hazy center. Other aircraft in similar condition (i.e. the Dash 80) went right on display. Maybe I don't have all of the details, but one would think that the "ready for display" aircraft would roll right over to the museum (I believe the storage sheds - not Garber - at Dulles are only a few hundered feet away from the Hazy center). Since the B-25 did not make it over to the Hazy center, I'm curious as to what the problem is with the aircraft. Have they discovered corrosion, has the paint job deteriorated since it was put into storage - paint hasn't stopped the P-61 from being displayed. Just curious.......

DaveM2 · **Posted:** Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:35 am

Don't forget the P-61 got 'bumped' due to a substantial donation being made and it and the P-38 wear their original paint.
Perhaps it is a case of getting the rarer and more unique aircraft out first.

Dave

Dennis Bergstrom · **Posted:** Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:06 am

DaveM2 wrote:

......me I want to see the Go229 .....NOW!!

Dave

Ok, Dave. Take it easy. Relax. Breathe deep.

Here's some pictures of the Go229 for you.

Dennis

(and no they didn't put a propeller on the front of it, even though that's what it looks like in the second picture)

TAdan · **Posted:** Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:18 am

I did not know any GO229's survived! :shock:

Is this the only one?

RickH · **Posted:** Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:19 am

Gotha is going to be a tough one to restore. It's too bad that the center section was allowed to deteriorate so badly. The outer wings look surprisingly good, considering the crude plywood laminate technology used to build it.

The Horten's believed Jack Northrop was completely wrong in his approach to the flying wing concept. Obviously they were both correct having successfully achieved their goals but using different control technology.

chico · **Posted:** Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:48 am

TAdan wrote:

I did not know any GO229's survived! :shock:

Is this the only one?

According to Wikipedia (which is not an authoritative source on anything. Ever.) the one in the picture is the only surviving Ho 229. The Flying wing glider prototype is stored at Planes of Fame along with the Northrop wing.

The few Ho 229's that were in production at time of capture were destroyed on the line to prevent their capture by the Russians

TAdan · **Posted:** Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:06 pm

Another question...

Does Ho stand for Horton, the designers. Was Go (Gotha) the manufacturer?

So the design is the Ho229, but the production model is the Go229? Or am I waaaay off, hehe.

Thanks

Ok...I googled it, looks like I was on the right track.

chico · **Posted:** Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:09 pm

You're on the right track. Ho for the designers, commonly called Go for the builders.

TAdan · **Posted:** Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:15 pm

Ok, so it is similar to the Bf/Me situation. Thanks.

DaveM2 · **Posted:** Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:57 pm

Dennis Bergstrom wrote:

DaveM2 wrote:

......me I want to see the Go229 .....NOW!!

Dave

Ok, Dave. Take it easy. Relax. Breathe deep.

Here's some pictures of the Go229 for you.

Dennis

Thanks Dennis, the most pressing reason to start on this is because of the deteriorating wooden stucture..............oh....and cause I want to see it :wink:

Dave

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

chico wrote:

The Flying wing glider prototype is stored at Planes of Fame along with the Northrop wing.

The Horten VI sailplane is hanging from the ceiling of one of the hangars at Planes of Fame and is on display.

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