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Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:56 pm
I'm not sure where exactly the location or date, but I would assume a few of these aircraft are currently on display or in storage at the National Museums?
Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:27 pm
This is from the Park Ridge facility in Chicago that housed much of the (then) National Aviation Museum collection prior to being moved by Paul Garber to Suitland Maryland (now the Paul Garber Facility). I would guess 1949 to 1950.
I have not seen this picture before (most pictures are from the other end of the building). To the left is the B-42 or B-43 (both were there, and went to Suitland, B-42 fuselage only, now at NMUSAF). In immediate foreground is the Kellett XR-8 helicopter (still at Garber, though I understand now looking for a new home).
I am curious what the airplane with the long wingspan is immediately in front of the B42/43.
Any more of these pictures?
Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:19 pm
J1N1?
He-219, Ju-388 in front of it. See the Ki-45, too, some 190/152s, He-162, P-40, 47, 51, 63...
Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:27 pm
The twin-engine aircraft with the long wingspan, sitting in front of the B-42/43 is a Tachikawa Ki-77 -- a truly rare bird and I think the first picture that I have ever seen of this in the US. Listed in Bulter's War Prizes (p. 238) as FE-153, and as stored at Park Ridge. Scrapped as they thinned out the collection prior to transport to what is now the Garber Facility. I would assume some pieces of this might remain in the NASM collection.
Two of Ki-77 were built, with one of these lost over the Indian OCean enroute to Berlin in 1943.
Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:42 pm
Baugher has quite a bit on the P-63A:
42-70255 (MSN 33-131)
9/23/44: TOS USAAF.
9/25/44: Vandalia, OH for modifications.
Ca.12/44: Army Air Force Cold Weather Detachment, Ladd Field, AK. Flew from several other bases. Pilot Wilbert “Dick” Dickmeyer named the plane “Edyth Louise” for his fiancé.
4/45 to late 10/45: WFU.
10/45: Ferried to US Aircraft Section, Air Materiel Command, Freeman Field, Seymour, IN.
Set aside for proposed USAAF aviation museum.
5/22/46: Flown to the aircraft storage area, 803rd Special Depot at Orchard Place Airport, Park Ridge, IL.
Total of 173 flying hours.
1960: To National Air Museum, Paul Garber facility, Silver Hill, MD.
1999: William Dickmeyer, who named the plane in 1944, toured the Garber Facility with his wife Edyth
Louise: he was allowed to sit in the cockpit.
Still at the Paul Garber facility of the Smithsonian Institution.
Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:43 pm
Wow...that is one rare pic!!!!
Imagine going back in time and stumbling on that lot....errrrr......how much for the whole pack sir????????????????
Thank for sharing Mark...truly a unique one.
Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:08 pm
More coming now that I know the location.
Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:15 pm
Surprised no one mentioned the Ar 234, which has now been restored and is on display.
Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:38 pm
Are you sure that’s a Ki-77? Looks like a Gekko to me
Also there - P-38, A6M, XP-80
Sat Apr 24, 2021 12:12 am
Also a P-39, either an A-36 or P-51A, a P-47 and two more fw190’s
Sat Apr 24, 2021 12:17 am
The Japanese aircraft is the P1Y Ginga (Frances). Notice the antennas on the side of the fuselage.
The Ki-45 Nick is the last aircraft in the row on the right.
Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:46 am
You’re right. That’s definitely a Frances and not a Gekko
Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:01 am
I stand corrected.
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