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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:51 pm 
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Just added the initial data for the Sikorsky H-37 Mojave/HR2S

http://forgottenrotors.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/sikorsky_CH37_mojave.html

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:36 pm 
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Here are some pages from the HR2S-1 Flight Manual. That was the Marine Corps equivalent to the Army H-37.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:49 pm 
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Thanks Larry!

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You are more than welcome Scott. I actually spent half a day in class on adjusting the valves on the R-2800 engines on an Army H-37 when I was going through the Aircraft Engine Repairman school at Ft. Eustis in early 1968 because there were still H-37s in Germany. I went straight to Vietnam after school and never touched a recip in the Army outside of school.

The nose ramp was probably the most distinctive feature of the H-37/HR2S. Hare the pages from the HR2S-1 Manual covering the operation of the nose doors.

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Scott, I have four photos of 54-0999 (N14463) that I shot at New Castle County Airport (KILG) back in 1984. They are scans of 35mm prints. How can I get them to you? I don't have access to an online photo repository anymore.

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K5DH wrote:
Scott, I have four photos of 54-0999 (N14463) that I shot at New Castle County Airport (KILG) back in 1984. They are scans of 35mm prints. How can I get them to you? I don't have access to an online photo repository anymore.


Hi Dean,

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Thanks Scott and Larry, I have a soft spot for the Mojave and is must stop every time I go by the aviation pavilion at the Army Transportation Museum at Ft. Eustis. A very interesting, complex layout, and the nose doors are intriguing, and a face only mother could love.

Anyone ever hear one fly or run up? Imagine quite loud?


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Back then n the early '70s, Keystone Helicopters out of Pennsylvania, a early external lift outfit, said they had one and were going to fly it.
I don't think it ever happened.
Anyone know different?

IIRC, their airframe became a dive attraction in a local quarry.

Neat illustration from the manual of one unloading a M422 Mighty Mite, a lightweight Jeep-like thing built by AMC (before they bought Jeep in the early '70s).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M422_Mighty_Mite

I think Pima had one, likely a M151, in their H-37 for awhile.

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JohnB wrote:
Back then n the early '70s, Keystone Helicopters out of Pennsylvania, a early external lift outfit, said they had one and were going to fly it.
I don't think it ever happened.
Anyone know different?

IIRC, their airframe became a dive attraction in a local quarry.

John, Keystone actually had about 40 or so Mojaves they purchased with spares when the were demobbed from the military. One of those birds they refurbished and flew to Pensacola to deliver over to the Naval Aviation Museum where it resides today. The Dutch Springs dive attraction hulk is also a Keystone veteran.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:43 am 
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Did they fly any commercially?

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JohnB wrote:
Did they fly any commercially?


A google search shows one lifting a power transmission tower, with the caption; "A Sikorsky H-37 (S-56) piston-engined heavy-transport helicopter carries a 9200-lb (4173 kg) transmission tower for installation by Appalachian Power Co. in the hills of West Virginia. The aircraft has been acquired by Helicrane Construction Corp (a subsidiary of Keystone Helicopter). of West Chester, PA."

From Vertiflite, January/February 1974 (page 18).

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JohnB wrote:
Did they fly any commercially?

Commercially? As in passengers? No. They had a limited type certificate which limited them to crew only on board necessary to fly the helicopter. They had removed a lot of the military internals as well as the Lear flight assist system and sealed the clamshells. I used to have a bunch of stuff on Mojave, but lost it in a computer crash years back. Here is a link to a Sikorsky archive article on the Mojave fleshing her story out a bit more ...
http://www.sikorskyarchives.com/S+56%20HR2S-1H-37.php

The Marine website popasmoke.com had some videos but most if not all had no sound to them. IIRC, the Marines used them in 'Nam to recover damaged vehicles in the field, the call sign being, "Junkman". At the bottom of the above link is a youtube vid of the Marines new bird. I remember us dropping my dad off to work at Ft Sill, Ok. and seeing a few of the Army birds on a misty morning flight line...I guess I was about 4. There was also a later contact with a couple visiting at the Grand Prairie, Tx. Air Guard field 'bout 64ish, but I don't recall seeing or hearing them fly. What a beast tho...

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Airnutz...
I know they were not used as passenger carriers.

I did not think they were flying passengers.
I know the rules about limited type certificates.

In this context, Commercial means getting paid.
External lift and firefighting operations are commercial...just like freight lines or AG work. That's why their pilots must have commercial ratings.

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JohnB wrote:
Airnutz...
I know they were not used as passenger carriers.

I did not think they were flying passengers.
I know the rules about limited type certificates.

In this context, Commercial means getting paid.
External lift and firefighting operations are commercial...just like freight lines or AG work. That's why their pilots must have commercial ratings.


Sorry, your question confused me as Keystone was a commercially active company.

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I just dug out my copy of Steve Ginter’s book on the CH-37/HR2S. It is up to the excellent quality that I’ve come to expect from this outfit. I just checked and it’s available’ at least at Ginter Books and probably elsewhere. It’s well worth the asking price.

http://www.ginterbooks.com/NAVAL/NF107.htm

This is the front cover from the order page

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