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Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:38 pm
Hi all,
Thanks to books, magazines and the internet this Millennial has learned there have been two (or more!) seat conversions of Corsairs, Hellcats, Wildcats and Lightnings to name but a few over the years. But has anyone ever converted an F8F to have a jump seat?
Just an idle thought I've had from time to time.
Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:15 pm
Yes, Gulfhawk IV had a jump seat when Elmer Ward owned it.
One of the pics on this Facebook page shows 2 guys in it.
https://www.facebook.com/MustangDaysNut ... 594766955/August
Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:37 am
John Herlihy owned Bearcat 98 for a while in the late 1970s. He had a back seat for a while, but was apparently unhappy with the lack of rollover structure.
It looked tight...
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Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:26 pm
Back in the late '70s/early '80s, John Herlihy had a Bearcat and a Mustang "This Is It". We asked him about the Mustang after he sold it and he said 'I had the Mustang so I could bring my wife when she wanted to come along to a show. After I put the back seat in the Bearcat I didn't need the Mustang'.
always thought that was funny.
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Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:42 pm
That must be the one that Stephen Grey had a ride in before he bought his first Bearcat. I remember him telling me that, with the structure behind the pilot’s seat gone, the tail used to twist in flight
Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:04 pm
Did Bu95356 have a spot for a passenger in the fuselage ala the Foote Wildcat at one point? I seem to recall a side window in an old photo...
Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:02 pm
The Wildcat owned by the Collings Foundation, Bu86680, has seating for 4 in the fuselage. Had seen it if I remember correctly at Thunder over Michigan. Or it could have been the Reading Penn. WW2 weekend.
Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:28 am
Thank you folks, asked and answered! Just one of those things that came to mind suddenly.
Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:49 pm
Warbirdnerd wrote:Did Bu95356 have a spot for a passenger in the fuselage ala the Foote Wildcat at one point? I seem to recall a side window in an old photo...
Bob Kucera had a Bearcat N212KA with two rear facing internal seats back in the late '60s.
Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:10 pm
Lon Moer wrote:Warbirdnerd wrote:Did Bu95356 have a spot for a passenger in the fuselage ala the Foote Wildcat at one point? I seem to recall a side window in an old photo...
Bob Kucera had a Bearcat N212KA with two rear facing internal seats back in the late '60s.

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That's the paint scheme I remember. Oddly neither N212KA nor Bob Kucera are listed in Goodall's Warbird Directory.
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Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:31 am
Rear facing seats ...

... wouldn't that make you puke like a sick bear ...

... or cat?
Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:13 am
Mike wrote:That must be the one that Stephen Grey had a ride in before he bought his first Bearcat. I remember him telling me that, with the structure behind the pilot’s seat gone, the tail used to twist in flight

Probably always did just now observation is possible!
Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:49 pm
Lon Moer wrote:Warbirdnerd wrote:Did Bu95356 have a spot for a passenger in the fuselage ala the Foote Wildcat at one point? I seem to recall a side window in an old photo...
Bob Kucera had a Bearcat N212KA with two rear facing internal seats back in the late '60s.
N212KA was complete with a side door as well as window ... Seen at Reno'68
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Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:46 pm
That's cool. Wow!
Warbirdnerd wrote:Oddly neither N212KA nor Bob Kucera are listed in Goodall's Warbird Directory.
I've just sent Geoff an email about that oversight. Good news is she's in
Aerial Visuals' database.
Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:47 am
Christer wrote:Rear facing seats ...

... wouldn't that make you puke like a sick bear ...

... or cat?
Some people get motion sickness easier than others. Riding backwards doesn't bother some people. I'm one of them.
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