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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:53 pm 
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The F-86 at the Warhawk Museum, is "on the hoof" as it were : )

The first three photos, shot today, show the airplane now inside the museum's hangar, looking better every time I see it, progress is clearly evident.

The P-40's ring sight caught my attention.

Lastly, the F-89 Scorpion at the park in Nampa, looks pretty good for a 50 year old aircraft; I hope that John Paul manages to bring it to the Warhawk Museum.


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Thank you, John, and the other guys at Warhawk, it was my
pleasure talking to you. The place was certainly busy!


Saludos,


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Wow...that amazing the F-86 is on its gear. 2 Weeks ago it was in peices outside the hangar! Thanks for the photos!


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Any recommendations for removing the dried up stickum paper from the canopy without harming the glass?


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John-Curtiss Paul wrote:
Any recommendations for removing the dried up stickum paper from the canopy without harming the glass?


Lighter fluid and a few sets of volunteer thumbnails.
Dampen the paper with lighter fluid and let soak a while until you can scrape
it away with your nail. Run a test patch first. Clean and polish after.

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Would soaking the whole canopy in a large container of warm water for a number of hours, work?? Of course you have to be careful during the scraping phase, no matter how you loosen the paper. Good luck!!


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How about Bestine for getting the residue off the canopy? Bestine is formulated specially for removing the sticky residue that tape leaves behind without damaging the surface. We use it on plexiglass all the time with no problems at all. It won't harm paint either. Just flood it on and let it soak for a minute or two and wipe off with a rag dipped in more Bestine.


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I would recommend Goo Gone.

here is a link:

http://www.magicamerican.com/googone.shtml


should be available anywhere.

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3M General Purpose Adhesive Remover. I use it on glass and paint all the time.


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That canopy is plastic, It will be dis-colored by solvents and thinners. I think goo-gone and the adhesive remover may be to harsh. Best to stick with soaking in dish soap until it softens.


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John-Curtiss Paul wrote:
Any recommendations for removing the dried up stickum paper from the canopy without harming the glass?

Try a heat gun on the LOW setting.

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Tigercat wrote:
Would soaking the whole canopy in a large container of warm water for a number of hours, work?? Of course you have to be careful during the scraping phase, no matter how you loosen the paper. Good luck!!


I have used the method with the lighter fluid as per a plastic suppliers instruction, but that was on small projects...not a guzillion dollar aircraft canopy, so I called a supplier who's been in the biz for 35 years. He said
given the age of the material, the absolute safest approach is to soak the
canopy in warm soapy water and scrape away the backing with a soft
plastic scraper. As far as solvents were concerned, he asked, "was the
original Plexy cast or extruded"?...ummm, I dunno..it's from the 50's.
He then suggested the aformentioned method using the original formula
Palmolive as the gentlest most agressive solution.

I called another supplier(1952)...but got a "kid" on the line who suggested
I scrap it. He was met with DEAD silence while I let him have his little chuckle.
Then the typical response these days, "Ummm, I'll go ask". He came back
suggesting a product called Acrisol or Acerisol...he couldn't spell it. No
queries of extrusion, cast, or vintage. Sounds like warm soapy water to
me....

Good Luck!

Good question J-CP! ..and thanks for the pics, Tulio!

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Tigercat wrote:
Would soaking the whole canopy in a large container of warm water for a number of hours, work?? Of course you have to be careful during the scraping phase, no matter how you loosen the paper. Good luck!!


Ummm...actually, I think I'd like to change my answer. I'd start off with
Eric F.'s approach with low heat. Then to Tigercat's plain warm water and
onward to the Palmolive. Who was the original manufacturer of the Plexy?
Is a phone call to them possible?

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Umm, are we talking about the canopy in this picture?
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It looks like it has a sprayed-on coating, not the adhesive paper you see on Plexi. If that’s the case, careful use of a heat gun would be my choice. For old adhesive paper, trust Madge…

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Yes, that's the canopy and it is actually made of Acrylic Plastic - and its actually kind of a cloth type material - not the sticky paper type protectent we see on plexiglass these days as I alluded to - it's just that it's all dried up and stuck on there. Thanks you all for your input - we're working on it as I speak and I'll let you know what worked - It's brand new and we of cousr want to keep it that way! I can't wait to see it on the airplane.. it's like the cherry on top. Thanks again,
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Take it soak it in lighter fluid and light it on fire whe the fires out get a new piece of glass and put it in


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