Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:20 pm
Mudge wrote:Cool pic. I'd say you stole it considering one web site has it for sale for $59.99.
Mudge the researcher
Oh so close, but not quite
If you look closely they are in fact not the same picture. The perspective is slightly different in both photos. I will agree that they are more than likely taken on the same day and flight, though.
Shay
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Semper Fortis
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Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:53 pm
I'd say you stole it considering one web site has it for sale for $59.99.
That's just a crummy poster! $60.00 yikes!! I sell 8 x 10s on ebay for $9.00!! where'd I go wrong??
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Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:09 pm
Jack Cook wrote:I'd say you stole it considering one web site has it for sale for $59.99.
That's just a crummy poster! $60.00 yikes!! I sell 8 x 10s on ebay for $9.00!! where'd I go wrong??
He gets to keep his picture and you part with yours?
Tim
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Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:34 pm
I usually don't part with originals except doubles 
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Originals (usually US fighter with nose art) can go for upwards of $200
depending on the subject matter. A original 4 x 3 of Dick Bong's Marge went of $250.00 while I got a original flight gear portrait of Top P-51 ace George Preddy for $5.00 
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Originals (usually US fighter with nose art) can go for upwards of $200
depending on the subject matter. A original 4 x 3 of Dick Bong's Marge went of $250.00
while I got a original flight gear portrait of Top P-51 ace George Preddy for $5.00 .
He gets to keep his picture and you part with yours?
Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:38 am
Link to a nice synopsis of the famous "Bottisham Four" photo w/a link to our friend (Martin the Mustang Master) website.
http://www.flyinghigher.net/northam/p51.php
regards,
t~
website.
http://www.flyinghigher.net/northam/p51.php
regards,
t~
Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:28 pm
Shame to see what happened to them - here is Skybouncer & Suzy G.
They were defintely green!
Best regards
Jason
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They were defintely green!
Best regards
Jason
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Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:12 am
Jack!
great pics!
Can you send me a higher resolution for my site?
Thanks again!
great pics!
Can you send me a higher resolution for my site?
Thanks again!
Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:09 pm
Wow! Sorry I missed this one for so long!.Great photo, BTW! It is one of the better comparative views I've ever seen.
Since Martin quoted me, I thought I'd better add my two cents worth to throughly muddy the view!
As pointed out earlier, all D's are infact -5-NA's. AFAIK, only E-2S has recieved a different than production canopy (early -6 style, which did not, IIRC, appear in production until -10-NA) and has the early form of Dorsal Fin Fillet. While the latter is probably a field mod, the canopy could be as simple as a replacement part OR purposely switched out for the better field of view. IIRC, Dass Doll (not in the photo) was also an interim D, but it has a totally different canopy profile shape (also a -6) than that shown for E-2S, and the final renditions of the classic and most esthetically pleasing -6.
I will go out on a limb here and state the well proven, that the DFF WAS not fitted for anything to do with the new canopy and a percieved loss fuselage side area (one of the most endearing Mustang myths). It was added for "strength and stability in rolls" and to comply with some very specific combat generated T.O.'s which mention P-51B/C/D's in the same sentences and for the very same reasons. While on the subject of DFF's let me also point out that both California and Texas built D's(including some K's) had both early("swaybacked") and late ("straight") style Dorsal Fin Fillets, fitted in production.
If I may add another opinion, there is something VERY sinister looking about those early -5's with the production hood and no DFF. Latter variants just don't look as threatening , to me anyway.
Great thread.
Charlie
Since Martin quoted me, I thought I'd better add my two cents worth to throughly muddy the view!
As pointed out earlier, all D's are infact -5-NA's. AFAIK, only E-2S has recieved a different than production canopy (early -6 style, which did not, IIRC, appear in production until -10-NA) and has the early form of Dorsal Fin Fillet. While the latter is probably a field mod, the canopy could be as simple as a replacement part OR purposely switched out for the better field of view. IIRC, Dass Doll (not in the photo) was also an interim D, but it has a totally different canopy profile shape (also a -6) than that shown for E-2S, and the final renditions of the classic and most esthetically pleasing -6.
I will go out on a limb here and state the well proven, that the DFF WAS not fitted for anything to do with the new canopy and a percieved loss fuselage side area (one of the most endearing Mustang myths). It was added for "strength and stability in rolls" and to comply with some very specific combat generated T.O.'s which mention P-51B/C/D's in the same sentences and for the very same reasons. While on the subject of DFF's let me also point out that both California and Texas built D's(including some K's) had both early("swaybacked") and late ("straight") style Dorsal Fin Fillets, fitted in production.
If I may add another opinion, there is something VERY sinister looking about those early -5's with the production hood and no DFF. Latter variants just don't look as threatening , to me anyway.
Great thread.
Charlie