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Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:25 pm

Thanks for the cartoon captions Wade :lol: you've made my day!!

John

Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:35 pm

Here's the original thread-

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=213&highlight=

Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:50 pm

Elwyn wrote:Here's the original thread-

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=213&highlight=

Thanks for that Elwyn, that seems to be a heavily sanitized version of the original thread. Probably better left that way, as I said, it all got very heated!

Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:58 pm

jpeters wrote:Thanks for the cartoon captions Wade :lol: you've made my day!!

John


I'll second that :lol: I bet alot of these videos would be more "interesting" with captions! :D

Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:18 pm

Hey guys, Dan made a mistake and was fortunate. He learned from the experience as we all did. I don't see where dragging this all through the mud again almost 3 years later is beneficial.

Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:49 pm

Wow! :shock: That guy was lucky! He must have been a foot off the ground when that happened. Apperantly he didn't loose his composure... the bloody fool did a victory roll after that! :shock:

Did he clean his pants?:butthead:

Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:55 pm

... the bloody fool did a victory roll after that!


'e thought it would buck up the civilians! :lol:

Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:05 pm

'e thought it would buck up the civilians!


'You'd been spread all over the feild like strawberry jam! Never again, CLEAR!!!' :lol:

Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:29 pm

RickH wrote:Hey guys, Dan made a mistake and was fortunate. He learned from the experience as we all did. I don't see where dragging this all through the mud again almost 3 years later is beneficial.


I didn't realize that this was "dragging it through the mud"... I've never seen this before and thought it was an eye opening clip and am glad he made it :D

Over a meter of clearance ?

Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:22 am

I firmly believe the piloting-dude had over 3 feet of air between the prop-arch and the ground.

The video is approximately at the height of the tailfeathers of that businessjet...so Yak-9U looks to be lower than it really was.

Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:57 pm

Ollie wrote:Dangerous Dan.
?

He is still here, isnt he?

P.S. I loved reading the older thread, I miss all the "colonelisms"

Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:25 am

This is why I ABSOLUTELY HATE seeing classic warbirds doing aerobatics! I have always felt that such rare and valuable aircraft should only be flown in a way that will let people hear the sound of the engine(s) and to see the machine actually fly. Leave the aerobatic stuff to the aircraft that were built for that purpose like Pitts' and Extra's etc. A maneuver like this would never have been done or permitted at that low of an altitude when it was in service so should it be okay now?

I cringe every time I see a warbird do a loop for the very same reason. Sure the pilot might be skilled enough to pull it off but why increase the risk factor on a potentially irreplaceable airframe? "Keep 'em flying" is definitely a good idea but why push the envelope?

Sorry for the rant but seeing that video just really pissed me off. :angry:

Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:57 am

For what it's worth, the Yak was actually one of the new-production machines that were fabricated back in the early 1990's I believe.

Regardless, I share your perspective on warbird aerobatics. If you're going inverted, keep the act high and keep the g's low. I'm still a huge fan of the low pass, but how many videos are out there showing warbird crashes or near misses that are directly attributable to a miscalculated low loop or roll? Quite a few! I can specifically recall a certain Yak, a P-63, a P-38, an Me-109, and a Firefly for starters.

Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:04 pm

I ABSOLUTELY love warbird aerobatics..........when they are flown correctly. They need to be flown by well trained and experienced pilots. The US system of airshow qualification requires pilots to fly their demonstrations at higher altitudes early in their 'career'. I am bored by Pitts/Extras aerobatics (apologies to my aerobatic club friends-gulp).

(time for a poll??)...............................;-)


VL

Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:05 pm

Vlado;
I can't agree more. As long as the training and skill levels are there, I find it much more interesting than seeing the "little" ones perform basically at the same speed, relative size, and similar routines.

Just look at the guy in the P-51 who perfomed this year at Terre Haute! We had 5 (count'em FIVE) Pitts/Extra's, etc. acts, and only a Stearman, F-16 Demo and you to help balance it out. I'll take a warbird acro routine any day as part of a good, well balanced air show mix.

Thanks for checking in on this.
Blue skies;
Jerry
"Airdale One"
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