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Hadn't been there in about two years. Quite a bit has changed.


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Awesome pics... that place sure has good light!

The size of the Arrow sure is shown well with the guy standing in front of it. That is a big machine!

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Great photos Brad! They have added alot in just 3 years! What is the 2 engine Japanese plane and what in the world is the cockpit section sitting on its side?

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MOST excellent photos! When I was 12 I was able to see them restoring the Enola Gay at the Paul Garber facility....great to see it's in such distinguished company. The shot of the FW-190 is the best one of that aircraft I've seen yet.

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Great pics!!! :D Post more if you can!

Just curious, but did you use a tripod?


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Pat Carry wrote:
Great photos Brad! They have added alot in just 3 years! What is the 2 engine Japanese plane and what in the world is the cockpit section sitting on its side?


Irving and Horten glider respectively

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Pat Carry wrote:
Great photos Brad! They have added alot in just 3 years! What is the 2 engine Japanese plane and what in the world is the cockpit section sitting on its side?


I'm guessing that the sideways display is a Horten Bros. product of some sort? And there are two twin engined Japanese aircraft, but I think the complete one is an "Irving"?

this may help:

http://www.nasm.si.edu/museum/udvarhazy ... ts_air.cfm

That place looks like one of my childhood model shelves brought to life; it is simply amazing. I have to get down there sometime soon.

cheers & thanks for the pics

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PhantomAce,

I don't know if Brad used a tripod but when I was there they said no tripod to me. You could get away handheld with ASA 200-400 most of the time. The museum is well planned for the photographer, the barriers are low so as not to get in the way of the shots. The light towers were annoying some of the time in the backgrounds.

Brad,

Looks like we were standing in the same exact spot. Nice pics.

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Great photos, Brad. Sorry you couldn't come up when we had the TA-4 up last month. I think you were out of country.

I found the building dark, most of the lighting is pretty localized.

On another note, I think WIXers should start a return the Sparrowhawk to Pensacola petition.


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The Japanese twin that is complete is the Irving. The Nick is sitting on a cradle with no wings. The HO-111 is the project hanging sideways. The Japanese and German collection is really something to see. I just wish they would bring the 109 and Zero out from town and put them on display.

The DO-335 is really a neat plane. I had no idea it was so large. I'm glad it's finally on display in one piece.

I didn't use a tripod. If I have to zoom much at all, I find something to sit the camera on or hold it up against something. My daughter stands pretty still so I have used the top of her head on occasion! My camera is a Canon Powershot SD600. It's small and can be stuffed in my flight suit pretty quick. Strangely enough, some of the places I go don't take kindly to pictures so I have to stash it pretty quick from time to time. I'm not a photographer of any sort and I'm always surprised when I get a picture that comes out good. Thats the glory of going digital. Six hundred pictures to get five good ones and all you waste is time. These little Canons are really nice. This is my third one, but I'm pretty hard on them.

Rick, I wish I could have come up to see the TA-4. Being out of the country has really impacted my aviation activities lately. I had to delay my trip to go help Gary with the B-24 because of the trip I'm leaving on in a couple of hours. Hopefully I'll make it back to my beloved Texas in January.

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Bill Kistler wrote:
PhantomAce,

I don't know if Brad used a tripod but when I was there they said no tripod to me. You could get away handheld with ASA 200-400 most of the time. The museum is well planned for the photographer, the barriers are low so as not to get in the way of the shots. The light towers were annoying some of the time in the backgrounds.


They actually didn't let you bring a tripod in?:? That seems odd. I was just wondering since you pretty much have to have a tripod to take good pictures at the Air Force Museum.


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This is a wicked looking machine...someone needs to build a flyer!

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Security was very visable, they even have large concrete spheres around the museum front to stop cars and a pop up car barrier you go over on the way into the museum. A bit odd for a flight museum I thought but I guess its the Washington area mentality.

Tripods are a problem at some museums because they are afraid of the tripping hazard. A monopod might work better. But in this era I think security is thinking more along the lines of a weapon, not a camera support.

I would rate it as one of the best museums, hopefully they don't end up overcrowding it in the future.
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General Joe Anderson gave a welcome brief to the Skyhawk Association members who showed for the tour of Udvar-Hazy. He said that they currently had 138 aircraft in the building ( I assume that includes the space gallery), the Annex will eventually house a total of 220 aircraft. More are arriving weekly.


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:shock: Just looks at the size difference between the man on the left and the Dornier...that'll put it in perspective!!!

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