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oscardeuce · **Joined:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:34 am **Posts:** 1021

Robert B Green Photo

f4phan · **Posted:** Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:06 am

Thank's for posting the pic O2 ...

RJ

oscardeuce · **Joined:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:34 am **Posts:** 1021

I'm still looking for the exact photographer, Not mine I forgot to say that. I will get the name to you if you need anymore info

JBoyle · **Posted:** Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:34 pm

I'm gonna get blasted for this but...

These were non-official outfits worn during events the USAF that hardly cast the USAF in a favorable light.
As such it gives the impression Vietnam was a long party for some of the people over there. Yes, I know "work hard, party hard", but there is a limit.

What's next, a display of empty booze bottles used during the "parties"?
Or more to the point, a photo montage of the favorite "professional working girls" and barmaids near the bases?
How about biographies of the illegitimate children left behind?

Shay · **Posted:** Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:42 pm

JBoyle wrote:

I'm gonna get blasted for this but...

These were non-official outfits worn during events the USAF that hardly cast the USAF in a favorable light.

Well they are being displayed at the National Museum of the United States Air Force. So I'm guessing their not too ashamed of them.

Shay
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oscardeuce · **Joined:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:34 am **Posts:** 1021

I'll blast away.

Thoe party suits I posted were worn by FACs. They flew low and slow, and had about 50% casualties. If they wanted to party while they were not on duty. Well, I'm sure I would if I put my butt on the line 2-3 times a day, I'd want a chance to blow off some steam.

Chicoartist · **Posted:** Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:12 pm

JBoyle wrote:

I'm gonna get blasted for this but...

These were non-official outfits worn during events the USAF that hardly cast the USAF in a favorable light.
As such it gives the impression Vietnam was a long party for some of the people over there. Yes, I know "work hard, party hard", but there is a limit.

What's next, a display of empty booze bottles used during the "parties"?
Or more to the point, a photo montage of the favorite "professional working girls" and barmaids near the bases?
How about biographies of the illegitimate children left behind?

Drinking and womanizing in a theatre of war is a bad thong? I mean thing?

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:22 pm

I am a volunteer there, and the flight suits have been a hit. This display is supposed to show the bonding that happens to the crews in combat. Someone that you risk your life with is worth drinking with. The museum is there to honor the men as well as the machines.

Shay · **Posted:** Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:48 pm

Speaking of the Museum's oddities:

"Iron Mike"

NMUSAF wrote:

Iron Mike, the mascot of the 317th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron, Elmendorf Air Force Base, Alaska, prior to its deactivation in late 1969, is a classic example of Air Force esprit de corps. He was considered "fair game" by rival USAF units, and as such, was frequently abducted from Alaska, to reappear mysteriously at some other USAF base, ranging from Greenland to South Vietnam where, it was reported, he was taken to gain some combat experience. It was usually necessary for the 317th to arrange for its own raiding party to re-kidnap him for return to Alaska.

Iron Mike is now in a retired status as USAF historical property, having served the Air Force well. All USAF personnel are cautioned that he is no longer considered "fair game."

Mark my words, Iron Mike will tour again. :twisted:

Shay
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sabredriver · **Posted:** Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:55 pm

I agree the party suit are good, and some were worn by FACs but when did FACs ever score mig kills? as seen on left hand sided suit 2 BIG red stars

Guess hit my smoke somehow killed migs?

f4phan · **Posted:** Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:27 pm

If you go by the definition of " Party " sure you might think along that line.

The Party Suit which continue's to be a tradition for the squadrons in Korea, since being introduced in the Vietnam era.

The color is the squadrons color and the patches show achievements as well as some self expression and or unit tradition or heitage. They were required attire alot of the times at the squadron lounge/bar in the off hours.

There are FAC unit's represented in that display. the 23rd TASS and The Raven's ...

RJ

ps: the Mig killer suits belong to DeBellvue & Bob Lodge ..

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:57 pm

Remember that F-100's were used as FAC's for a while, so it could happen.

APG85 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:44 am

Is there a picture of "Iron Mike" on display?

Randy Haskin · **Posted:** Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:03 am

JBoyle wrote:

These were non-official outfits worn during events the USAF that hardly cast the USAF in a favorable light.
As such it gives the impression Vietnam was a long party for some of the people over there. Yes, I know "work hard, party hard", but there is a limit.

What's next, a display of empty booze bottles used during the "parties"?
Or more to the point, a photo montage of the favorite "professional working girls" and barmaids near the bases?
How about biographies of the illegitimate children left behind?

Great, then how about we show some pictures of burned and dismembered bodies next to the aircraft?

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:17 am

I don't understand why this is a big deal.

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