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Fri Sep 24, 2004 5:13 am
Tony
The chap who sent us the pics of the Museum aircraft did suggest to his guides that the AirForce may have a Museum on one of its bases, but any mention of the mlitary caused them to shy away from the subject..understandable I guess
He was keen to go back , although I don't know if cruising the childrens playgrounds would be seen as a 'tourist pass time '.....in any country
There was talk the Tim Wallis had something brewing out of North Korea, but haven't heard anything further for a few years.
Dave
Cees , if we are going to do requests..I still want to see the images of Syria..Spits , Macchis or ???
Fri Sep 24, 2004 5:52 am
DaveM2 wrote:Cees , if we are going to do requests..I still want to see the images of Syria..Spits , Macchis or ???

Would be a nice thread Dave,
A few years ago I thought all recoverable hulks etc. had already been recovered. But the more time goes by the more I believe that we are yet to see some very interesting recoveries/finds. Just look at the Harts in Afghanistan for instance.
Cees
Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:08 am
A few years ago I thought all recoverable hulks etc. had already been recovered. But the more time goes by the more I believe that we are yet to see some very interesting recoveries/finds. Just look at the Harts in Afghanistan for instance.
Cees[/quote]
Well I think there is a bit more out there, outside of the obvious places like Russia.
Has anybody made a move on the Hinds yet ??
Dave
Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:00 pm
Very much looking forward to that info Dave!
Sun Sep 26, 2004 1:29 am
Try the Hump air route. I've heard the mountains are filled with shiny metal all over..
Chris
Sun Sep 26, 2004 4:32 am
Who knows what's lurking out there....
But not looking for it when everything's covered with snow, pity that's most of the time.
Cees
Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:21 pm
Gentlemen:
I'd also like to hear about those Claudes and I-16s. It would be awesome to see a flyable Claude.
Chris
Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:56 pm
Col. Rohr wrote:What ever came of the discussion on the old FF board aboutt he wrecks on the China/Russian boarder.
Are you referring to Indiana Tony's discussion of aircraft in Mongolia?
Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:33 am
Back in 1982 or 1984, the propaganda magazine 'Soviet Union' published several brief articles on the Soviet participation in the WWII ALSIB ROUTE, ferrying Lend Lease aircraft from Alaska to Siberia and across to the western battle front.
One article mentions a complete P-40 was found in the late 70's on its landing gear. Apparently, during the ferry flight accross Siberia, it experienced engine problems, and the Soviet pilot landed, with gear down, on the tundra. No damage to the aircraft according to the article. Unable to be rescued, they found the remains of the pilot who had frozen to death.
I suspect the next greatest grave yard of American WWII aircraft currently in existence is in Siberia, scattered somewhere along the old Soviet version of their ALSIB route.
Yours very truly,
Norman Malayney
Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:40 am
Forgot to mention, I have xerox copies of the articles somewhere in my filing cabinets. I"ll dig them out and list the dates the stories appeared. They also published a map of the ferry route listing the bases each aircraft flew to. in order to reach the ETO.
Norman Malayney
Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:25 pm
Don't remember the thread getting hot at all ?
Battle of Khalkin Gol/Nomonhan ,there are still Trucks and Tanks in the area ,once in a while human remains are discovered as well.
It's a vast dry Desert/Marsh like area ,and a lot of the kit is still in a reasonable state of preservation allegedly.
The area of the battle is vast ,and would require an air search ,but yes ,there is every chance of finding a Claude , there were enough lost!
Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:27 pm
Tony et al
Definitely stuff in the Russian Far East, The Il-4 that recently went on display at the Victory Museum was recovered from that area, after force landing due to combat with Japanese fighters. In such good condition that it is 90% original after three years of restoration.
Dave
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