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Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7877

Happy Xmas + 1

I was going to wait until after the 1st of the year to post a new thread but I have some down time (to continue to harrass you guys with :wink:

) and thought some of you may enjoy a few C-47's. Hope you all had a nice day yesterday. I've cleaned these guys up as best I dare with photoshop and labeled with as much info as I have. Source SDASM, USAF archives.

Just reviewed the posts and sorry but many of the photos just couldn't be cleaned up better. A lot of fuzzy and faded images

Part 1 of 6

Douglas C-33

Douglas R4D-4 NATS 2-star Admiral command plane from the Naval Air Transport Service at Oakland on April 9 1946

Douglas C-42 front view SN 38-503 "Flying Chief" note the curtains in the cabin windows (US Air Force photo)

43-49404 built as a C-47 B-15-DK Photo probably taken between 1953 and 1963

An R4D Skytrain assigned to Naval Air Station NAS Corpus Christi Texas circa 1955

C-47 A CA ANG Hayward

Douglas SC-47D Skytrain of the C Flight of the 6th Rescue Squadron USAF Air Rescue Service

Douglas C-47

R4D Skytrain The aircraft is probably assigned to Marine Utility Squadron 352 VMJ-352

Canadian Air Force C-47 seconded to the UN

C-47 Skytrain "Gooney Bird" based at Hickam Air Force Base Hawaii from early 1950's to mid-1970's

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7877

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An RAF Dakota unloading supplies most probably at Lubeck in 1945

C-47A-90-DL Skytrain 73rd Troop Carrier Squadron 434th Troop Carrier Group 9th Air Force

C-47's 71st Troop Carrier Squadron CJ Daytime Supply Mission

Douglas C-47's 12th Air Force Troop Carrier Wing loaded with paratroopers on their way for the invasion of Southern France 15 August 1944 (US Air Force photo)

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7877

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Douglas C-47 spraying DDT insecticide over American camp area to control malaria-carrying mosquitoes Manila Philippines 1945-1946

Douglas C-47 with gliders loaded with airborne troops for operation Market Garden in Holland in Sept 1944

Douglas C-47A-50-DL Skytrain at Amchitka

Douglas C-47 dakota production line long beach

Isachsen Weather Station 1949

Market Garden C-47 transports

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7877

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WACO gliders and transport aircraft C-47

Gen MacArthur lower left

439th Troop Carrier Group Upottery Devonshire England USAAF Station 462

Bastogne supply drop 1944

Torslanda Sweden 1945

R4D Skytrain F4U Corsair and TBM Avenger aircraft surround personnel in ranks during an inspection inside of the blimp hangar at Naval Air Station NAS South Weymouth M

R4D Skytrain assigned to Marine Utility Squadron 352 VMJ-352 following a landing accident probably at Cherry Point NC

R4D on USS Philippine Sea 1947

Over head view of the aircraft carrier Philippine Sea CV 47 passing through the Panama Canal enroute to Antarctica for Oepration High jump 1946

Antarctic 1947

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7877

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Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7877

Part 6 of 6

C-47 dropping supplies during the Burma campaign in 1944

C-47 practices mail cylinder pick-up at Parks Metropolitan Airport St Louis 1946

A team of American flying nurses who ferry wounded soldiers from the North African battlefields to the rear for treatment April 1943 (LIFE archives)

The Inspector · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:48 pm

Nice Boxing Day present! Thanx Mark-

Chris Brame · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:03 pm

Good stuff again - I'd like to know more about the postwar shots of the glider (CG-15? And why the long pod atop its cabin?) being towed right on the C-47's tail, and especially the Culver drone (edit: It's a survivor - N999ML at the EAA Museum!) stuck on the C-47's wingtip.

Edit again: more info and photos here:
http://www.air-and-space.com/Wing%20Tip ... 20Q-14.htm

The Inspector · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 5:45 pm

Chris Brame wrote:

Good stuff again - I'd like to know more about the postwar shots of the glider (CG-15? And why the long pod atop its cabin?) being towed right on the C-47's tail, and especially the Culver drone (edit: It's a survivor - N999ML at the EAA Museum!) stuck on the C-47's wingtip.

Edit again: more info and photos here:
http://www.air-and-space.com/Wing%20Tip ... 20Q-14.htm

The initial tests for project TipTow used the CULVER and C-47, this eventually leading up to project TomTom using 2 F-84's and a B-29 (and a B-36) in an attempt to have the bomber forces tow their protection into attacks on the Soviets. Far from sucessful, several accidents and the last try was the Xf-85/RF-F-84 FICON program.
A long, twisted, and expensive part of post WW2 strategery that resulted in serious lessons learned and the sound of a huge toilet full of money being flushed.

Obergrafeter · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:09 pm

Love the picture of the para-paks and the Culver wing-tip tow.

DC3R4DC47 · **Joined:** Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:34 am **Posts:** 115

thank you,thank you,thank you

Larry Kraus · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:43 pm

Chris,I think that the fairing on the top of the CG-15 glider in rigid tow might be a camera housing for the rigid tow bar tests.There are pictures of apparently the same CG-15 being towed by a C-46 in this link

http://koreanwarletters.blogspot.com/20 ... age-2.html

I also found a document on the tests using a C-82 and a CG-15 with the rigid tow bar.The document is from 1952 and it states that the system was copied from a Luftwaffe tow bar.Here's a link to the document.

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/004527.pdf

The Inspector · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:01 pm

The Luftwaffe experimented with towed to intercept point Blohm and Voss BV-40 armed gliders (that resembled the crate a Schweitzer 2-32 was shipped in) with a prone pilot and 2 X 30mm cannons that used a short, rigid tow bar. They also did basically the same thing with towed aerial bombs behind fighters where the bomb was too big to be lifted in a conventional manner under a Bf-109.
The USAAF also looked into a rigid towbar setup for a proposed tailess, reverse swept wing multi thousand gallon flying piloted fuel supply bowser the Cornelius XFG-1, which if memory serves was made of plywood, two built and tesed but project abandoned after WW2 :shock:

SaxMan · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:24 pm

So-o-o-o-o-o-o Close! I've been looking for pics of 42-100985, and you have a pic of 42-100989!

42-100985 was sold surplus to Capital Airlines in February 1946, where it was registered NC88835 (later N88835), flew as the "Capitaliner Pittsburgh" before being relegated to a training role. It crashed on June 22, 1957 near Clarksburg, Maryland, killing its crew of three and very narrowly missing (by 15 feet) a house which had a mother and her three kids inside, while the father was outside and "hit the deck" to avoid being hit by the plane and debris. I've done a lot of research on this crash for the Maryland-National Capital Park & Planning Commission, who now owns the land where the plane crashed and am preparing a final report / article to submit to the park historians. I'd love to find a pic of the plane in her AAF livery.

patelie · **Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:43 am

Mark Allen M wrote:

Part 2 of 6

Hi Mark
If you have a better picture can you tell me if the serial is 282914 or 292914 and the nickname "American Beauty"?
Thanks in advance

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