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Jack Cook
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I walked down the street to the neighbors garage sale and got this original shot for 10 cents!!! no, they didn't have any others dammit!
This is a view of the famous photo flight of the 361st FG's new P-51Ds lead by Col Tom Christian. But, I've never seen this view before. I think this is the best wartime formation air-to-air I've ever seen!
#1 Col Tom J.J. Christian, #2 1Lt Ben Drew, #3 1Lt Bruce Rowlett & #4 Capt Francis Glanker.
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10 cents... I don't like you anymore Jack...

Not that I ever did... ;)

I haven't seen this particular view either... nice score!


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Hmmm... doesn't look like they're ALL new P-51Ds (and I'm guessing Capt. Glanker was just a mite jealous of his buddies)

Beautiful pic and a nice find.
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holy smokes !

10 lousy cents..... words fail me.....

congrats, Jack - this photo has found a good home.

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Nice score :)
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Jack - I knew I had seen this/your version of the "Bottisham Four" before:

http://www.361fg.com/Main/Enlarge/Other/p-51sr.htm

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Jack Cook wrote:
I walked down the street to the neighbors garage sale and got this original shot for 10 cents!!! no, they didn't have any others dammit!
This is a view of the famous photo flight of the 361st FG's new P-51Ds lead by Col Tom Christian. But, I've never seen this view before. I think this is the best wartime formation air-to-air I've ever seen!
#1 Col Tom J.J. Christian, #2 1Lt Ben Drew, #3 1Lt Bruce Rowlett & #4 Capt Francis Glanker.
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Should we start the argument as to whether they were green or blue? :shock:
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Should we start the argument as to whether they were green or blue? :shock:


:axe:


I feel like Bill Murray in "Groundhog Day"

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Nice 2 examples of early D models without the dorsal fins. Looks like Drew had the new model eh?

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I think C and S are blue
A and H are Green...

How's that?

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Ya, they were all blue and every freaking SNJ the Navy ever flew had that stupid GTMO blue-gray/yellow/orange scheme!

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Looks like Drew had the new model eh?

Nope. Early D were retrofitied with the fin filet also so don't use that to judge the model of the airplane. A number of Bs also had it put on. The Bs looked a little funny, sorta like a P-47 with a malcolm hood canopy.

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Looks like Drew had the new model eh?

Nope. Early D were retrofitied with the fin filet also so don't use that to judge the model of the airplane. A number of Bs also had it put on. The Bs looked a little funny, sorta like a P-47 with a malcolm hood canopy.


...and there were two versions of dorsal fin fillets on K-models, the so called 'straight' and the 'sway-backed' [curved top edge] type;
and it might be of interest to you guys that not only were a number of B/C's retrofitted in the field but also a number at the factory during the production of the last C-10-NT batch at Dallas [FY 44 serials].....

I won't go into differences on canopies (those D's in the photo have the early -2 California type).....

so Jack is absolutely right - don't try to judge on a model by looking at a single detail.

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Hmmm... doesn't look like they're ALL new P-51Ds (and I'm guessing Capt. Glanker was just a mite jealous of his buddies)


He may have preferred the B/C. Quite a few pilots did.

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I won't go into differences on canopies (those D's in the photo have the early -2 California type).....
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Martin

Martin, doesn't the centre of the 3 D's in the pic. have a different canopy to the outer 2 ? more pointed above the pilot ?
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