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Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:55 pm
I walked down the street to the neighbors garage sale and got this original shot for 10 cents!!! no, they didn't have any others dammit!
This is a view of the famous photo flight of the 361st FG's new P-51Ds lead by Col Tom Christian. But, I've never seen this view before. I think this is the best wartime formation air-to-air I've ever seen!
#1 Col Tom J.J. Christian, #2 1Lt Ben Drew, #3 1Lt Bruce Rowlett & #4 Capt Francis Glanker.
Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:09 pm
10 cents... I don't like you anymore Jack...
Not that I ever did...
I haven't seen this particular view either... nice score!
Fade to Black...
Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:46 pm
Hmmm... doesn't look like they're ALL new P-51Ds (and I'm guessing Capt. Glanker was just a mite jealous of his buddies)
Beautiful pic and a nice find.
Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:06 am
holy smokes !
10 lousy cents..... words fail me.....
congrats, Jack - this photo has found a good home.
cheers
Martin
Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:57 am
Nice score
Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:20 am
Jack - I knew I had seen this/your version of the "Bottisham Four" before:
http://www.361fg.com/Main/Enlarge/Other/p-51sr.htm
Martin
Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:22 am
Jack Cook wrote:I walked down the street to the neighbors garage sale and got this original shot for 10 cents!!! no, they didn't have any others dammit!
This is a view of the famous photo flight of the 361st FG's new P-51Ds lead by Col Tom Christian. But, I've never seen this view before. I think this is the best wartime formation air-to-air I've ever seen!
#1 Col Tom J.J. Christian, #2 1Lt Ben Drew, #3 1Lt Bruce Rowlett & #4 Capt Francis Glanker.

Should we start the argument as to whether they were green or blue?
Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:34 am
Tim Savage wrote: Should we start the argument as to whether they were green or blue?

I feel like Bill Murray in "Groundhog Day"
*sigh*
Martin
Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:36 am
Nice 2 examples of early D models without the dorsal fins. Looks like Drew had the new model eh?
regards,
t~
Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:10 am
I think C and S are blue
A and H are Green...
How's that?
Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:32 am
Ya, they were all blue and every freaking SNJ the Navy ever flew had that stupid GTMO blue-gray/yellow/orange scheme!
Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:36 am
Looks like Drew had the new model eh?
Nope. Early D were retrofitied with the fin filet also so don't use that to judge the model of the airplane. A number of Bs also had it put on. The Bs looked a little funny, sorta like a P-47 with a malcolm hood canopy.
Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:06 am
Jack Cook wrote:Looks like Drew had the new model eh?
Nope. Early D were retrofitied with the fin filet also so don't use that to judge the model of the airplane. A number of Bs also had it put on. The Bs looked a little funny, sorta like a P-47 with a malcolm hood canopy.
...and there were two versions of dorsal fin fillets on K-models, the so called 'straight' and the 'sway-backed' [curved top edge] type;
and it might be of interest to you guys that not only were a number of B/C's retrofitted in the field but also a number at the factory during the production of the last C-10-NT batch at Dallas [FY 44 serials].....
I won't go into differences on canopies (those D's in the photo have the early -2 California type).....
so Jack is absolutely right - don't try to judge on a model by looking at a single detail.
Martin
Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:21 am
TBDude wrote:Hmmm... doesn't look like they're ALL new P-51Ds (and I'm guessing Capt. Glanker was just a mite jealous of his buddies)
He may have preferred the B/C. Quite a few pilots did.
August
Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:34 am
Swiss Mustangs wrote:.........................
I won't go into differences on canopies (those D's in the photo have the early -2 California type).....
.......................
Martin
Martin, doesn't the centre of the 3 D's in the pic. have a different canopy to the outer 2 ? more pointed above the pilot ?
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