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Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:11 pm
Speaking of gas. One of my favorite movie lines:
"General. The Americans have enough gas to fly cakes across the Atlantic."
And we did!
Mudge the moviegoer
Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:22 pm
What flick was that one from?
SN
Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:24 pm
hairy wrote:Mudge wrote:OK...OK...Merlins are out. Consider this...a pair of Griffons.
Mudge the revolutionary

Yeah Baby, and none of those namby-pamby contra props either.

Go for contra-props on
both engines.
Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:00 am
Steve Nelson wrote:What flick was that one from?
SN
I think that was "Patton".
Scott
Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:07 am
Second Air Force wrote:Steve Nelson wrote:What flick was that one from?
SN
I think that was "Patton".
Quick search, looks like
Battle of the Wrong Tanks, sorry
Bulge
http://www.answers.com/topic/battle-of-the-bulge-film
Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:29 am
Robert Shaw said it.
Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:25 am
Here I ask a perfectly valid "what if" and youse troops are sidetracked by a line from a movie.
What about the freakin' Griffons???
Geez..."Always with the negative vibes, Kightly."
Mudge the stirrer
Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:36 am
Mudge wrote:Here I ask a perfectly valid "what if" and youse troops are sidetracked by a line from a movie.
What about the freakin' Griffons???
Mudge the stirrer

Interesting concept, but what would have been the point? The turbo-chargers already gave the P-38 the altitude capabalities lacking in the other other Allison powered aircraft, and IIRC the Lightning has some airspeed retrictions related to the tail feathers that would negate much of an increase in speed.
Still, the thought of two Griffons with contra-props on a P-38 is attractive.
Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:05 am
Nathan wrote:Robert Shaw said it.
Yup, I suspected I was wrong when I typed Patton. Thanks for clearing it up everyone!
Scott
Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:12 am
Second Air Force wrote:Nathan wrote:Robert Shaw said it.
Yup, I suspected I was wrong when I typed Patton. Thanks for clearing it up everyone!
Scott
its ok dude. "when you stick your hand in goo that was once your friend you will know what to do".
Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:15 am
Wasn't the Xp58 basically an upsized '38 to fly with the slightly larger than a Griffon experimental Allisons? Given that a Merlin is quite a bit heavier than an Allison already, I don't know the you could get Griffons on a '38, even for a Reno racer setup. Might be some really long boom extensions to counterweight it. Would be a mean airplane though.
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