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I am afraid I cannot not share your view - 511th FS definitely was K4 coded while the 510th was 2Z

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Are you sure that you're sure?????????????????

509th Fighter Squad P-47 G9
510th Fighter Squad P-47 K4
511th Fighter Squad P-47 2Z

from this 9th Fighter Command Website
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I didn't rgister on the site to see all of the recovered '47's photos..so, what
color is the nosebowl on this machine? Looks kinda dark in the blk/wht
photo provided to be a yellow one?

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Are you sure that you're sure?????????????????

509th Fighter Squad P-47 G9
510th Fighter Squad P-47 K4
511th Fighter Squad P-47 2Z

from this 9th Fighter Command Website
http://www.publicenquiry.co.uk/commands/fc9th.html


Yup

I am sure

check this site (link already posted earlier) - all ships are 2Z coded

http://www.510fs.org/index.php

Throughout my bibliography the 511th always is given as K4.......

"Thundermonsters over Europe"
"The 9th Air Force in World War 2"
"The Ninth Air Force In Color"
"Support and Strike"
"Ninth Air Force Story"
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etc.

The link you posted is of poorly researched content.

They also got the codes for 366th FG wrong.

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I didn't rgister on the site to see all of the recovered '47's photos..so, what
color is the nosebowl on this machine? Looks kinda dark in the blk/wht
photo provided to be a yellow one?


Airnutz-

Well, as recovered it's black, but there are traces of yellow behind the green nose art surround... IIRC, all P-47s delivered in NMF to the ETO carried black noses (and I think that applies to P-51s as well). The individual units would overpaint or strip them... Martin, please correct me if I'm wrong on this.

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I didn't rgister on the site to see all of the recovered '47's photos..so, what
color is the nosebowl on this machine? Looks kinda dark in the blk/wht
photo provided to be a yellow one?


It is yellow painted over the ETO markings which were black on NMF ships - also the canopy-frame was yellow - and traces of the yellow color are still visible there, too

=> Yellow = Squadron Color for the 511th FS

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and for comparison - here is a sister ship of the 405th FG 511th FS from my collection

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You're a nawty-boy Jack Cook! :twisted: Thanks guys!

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Here's a shot of a 410th Fs Jug.
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Awesome ! I have always wondered about the planes that went down on the eastern front both german and russian, this really makes me want to go and find some more a/c that have to be over there. I hope who ever owns this jug will put it back in the air!


Yeah, the many lakes of Pommerania and East Prussia would have some great finds still I'm sure! :)
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Any word on the T-Bolt's current location? Anyone know if she's stateside yet or where she's going?

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great digging to come up with that pic!! you get the golden shovel award!!! best, tom

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the 47's in the pacific are a pair, dug up on new guinea, & already in private hands if i'm not mistaken. all of them from europe to the pacific are great news though!!! :D :D best, tom

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