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Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:43 am
1. "Alright big mouth that did it"!
2. "You can tell Lt. Dickinson for me he couldn't hit a bull in the butt with a bass fiddle"
Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:49 am
#2 would be from T-3......"Tora, Tora, Tora"
also from "Tora" and still so applicable today
" In all my fifty years of public service, I have never seen a document so crowded with infamous falsehoods and distortions, on a scale so huge that I never imagined until today that any government on this planet was capable of uttering them. "
Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:08 am
I think the "Bass fiddle" line was from 12 O'Clock High.
The "Fifty years" line was, in fact, from Tora. Was said by Sec. Cordell Hull to Ambs. Nomura and Kurusu.
Mudge the positive
Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:14 am
"You can tell Lt. Dickinson for me he couldn't hit a bull in the butt with a bass fiddle"
T-3 all right..Bull Halsey after watching a lackluster demonstration of dive bombing. There is a similar scene (don't recall whether it's before or after) in which Yamamato praises his pilots after watching a similar demonstration.
SN
Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:20 am
Steve Nelson wrote:"You can tell Lt. Dickinson for me he couldn't hit a bull in the butt with a bass fiddle"
T-3 all right..Bull Halsey after watching a lackluster demonstration of dive bombing. There is a similar scene (don't recall whether it's before or after) in which Yamamato praises his pilots after watching a similar demonstration.
SN
OK...I remember that line now. Should have signed: Mudge the forgetful.
Mudge the chagrined
Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:17 pm
#2 came from Tora x3. Correct. I am pretty sure it was spoofing a real name from Pearl Harbor: Lt. Clarence Dickinson. Who was one of the SBD pilots that flew from Enterprise during the attack. Lt. Dickinson had a long ordeal after bailing out and it is worthy of reading. He really interests me for some reason. Perhaps because of his almost comical but yet sad exploits at Pearl. His gunner was KIA never bailing out of the stricken SBD which ended up crashing.
Can anyone get number 1? I will give a small hint...Americans and Canadians.
Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:23 pm
#1 was from the film "The Devils Brigade".
Love that movie!
Jerry
Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:59 pm
Jerry O'Neill wrote:#1 was from the film "The Devils Brigade".
Love that movie!
Jerry
Correct Jerry!!

Good job!
Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:27 pm
How about "Devil's Brigade" for #1? I think it was said by Claude Akins just before he got his butt whupped by the Canadian Sgt.
I remember William Holden, Cliff Robertson, Vince Edwards, and Claude Akins being in it. I guess I could look it up.
Mudge the forgetful
Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:52 pm
Mudge wrote:How about "Devil's Brigade" for #1? I think it was said by Claude Akins just before he got his butt whupped by the Canadian Sgt.
I remember William Holden, Cliff Robertson, Vince Edwards, and Claude Akins being in it. I guess I could look it up.
Mudge the forgetful
Don't forget the Richards! Dawson and Jackel
Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:50 pm
In all my fifty years of public service, I have never seen a document so crowded with infamous falsehoods and distortions, on a scale so huge that I never imagined until today that any government on this planet was capable of uttering them."
The movie leaves out the rest of Cordell Hull's speech:
"Scoundrels and pissants!"
Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:10 am
Did Secretary Hull actually make that statement to Nomura and Kurusu, or is it similar to Yamamoto's "sleeping giant" quote (something everybody "knows," but there's no record of him actually saying?) Wiki records Hull as saying it, but it's not necessarily a definitive source.
SN
Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:20 am
In the movie, Hull says it to them directly. But...you know Hollywood.
Hollywood also showed P-40s outmaneuvering Zeros in that disaster called "Pearl Harbor" so make up your own mind.
Mudge the suspicious
Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:41 pm
Hollywood also showed P-40s outmaneuvering Zeros
The P-40 could. As long as the pilot kept his airspeed up above that of the zero.
BTW: Mudge, I remember you not liking the Tora group at airshows.
Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:13 pm
Right. Never could understand the attraction to it. A bunch of modified T-6s flying over and some fuel being set afire on the ground. But...for those of you who like it....
Mudge the grouch
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