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Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:02 am
I understand that the nearly ready - after 8yrs or rework - early build F-4A Phantom warbird now marked up in fleet training colour with "AD" and white blue red tail markings, is now only months away from flying. It is using ex F-4B engines are installed.
Would be great to see this fly alongside the CF F-4D Phantom and a USAF Heritage flight F-4E Phantom and a German Air Force F-4F Phantom ideally for a amazing rare formation.
Heres hoping more F-4s will be civilised

Phil
Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:24 pm
i would love to see that formation
Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:45 pm
Liberator wrote:I understand that the nearly ready - after 8yrs or rework - early build F-4A Phantom warbird now marked up in fleet training colour with "AD" and white blue red tail markings, is now only months away from flying. It is using ex F-4B engines are installed.
Would be great to see this fly alongside the CF F-4D Phantom and a USAF Heritage flight F-4E Phantom and a German Air Force F-4F Phantom ideally for a amazing rare formation.
Heres hoping more F-4s will be civilised

Phil
It would be terrific to see the F-4A/F4H-1F Phantom II fly before the end of the Centennial of Naval Aviation. But in any case I hope to see this beauty in the air soon. It would be great if it could fly at the Planes of Fame Warbird show in Chino next May......How about a vintage Navy jet formation with the F-4A leading the FJ-4B Fury on one wing and an A-4 Skyhawk on the other wing, or better yet the F-4A with Two Skyhawks and the Fury.
Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:41 pm
Man, I loove that paint scheme!!
Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:22 pm
the collings foundation phantom, is that hangered in Mass. or some other state? I've never seen it fly and i'm in the state
Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:38 pm
I hope to have her finished by the end of this year. Some minor things keep getting in the way, as prototype and production parts don't always match. An example is the latest glitch... production "fat wing" speed brake actuators won't work on an early "thin wing". The speed brakes hang down 3 inches! Little things, but they always add up to missing the deadline.
Pat Rodgers
Wings and Rotors Air Museum
Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:30 pm
whistlingdeathcorsairs wrote:the collings foundation phantom, is that hangered in Mass. or some other state? I've never seen it fly and i'm in the state
The Collings Foundation keeps their jets (F-4D Phantom, F-100F Super Sabre and TA-4F Skyhawk) in Texas in the Houston area. RickH can give you the details.
Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:37 pm
wingsandrotorspilot wrote:I hope to have her finished by the end of this year. Some minor things keep getting in the way, as prototype and production parts don't always match. An example is the latest glitch... production "fat wing" speed brake actuators won't work on an early "thin wing". The speed brakes hang down 3 inches! Little things, but they always add up to missing the deadline.
Pat Rodgers
Wings and Rotors Air Museum
Pat, thanks for giving us a reality check on your work on the Phantom at Wings and Rotors. I am sure the differences between a very early model like this and those later F-4B's, etc. do pose some unique challenges. Best of luck with the speed brake actuators and everything else.
Meeting paper deadlines in not important with a project like this. Doing it right and making sure you have a safe airplane before flight is what counts.
Keep up the great work. Look forward to seeing the finished aircraft when it's ready.
Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:12 pm
The Collings Foundation Viet Nam Memorial Flight aircraft live at Ellington Field-Houston. The F-4 has flown at Andrews AFB, twice, Cape Cod, Portsmouth, NH, Stow, MA, and Nashua, NH. If you haven't seen it up there in New England, you weren't trying !
Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:23 am
hagkid91 wrote:Man, I loove that paint scheme!!
AGREE it's a real beauty! Can't wait to see this Phantom in the air.
Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:19 pm
RickH wrote:The Collings Foundation Viet Nam Memorial Flight aircraft live at Ellington Field-Houston. The F-4 has flown at Andrews AFB, twice, Cape Cod, Portsmouth, NH, Stow, MA, and Nashua, NH. If you haven't seen it up there in New England, you weren't trying !

Stow, Ma.?? Minute Man Air Field?
What, on a truck?
Phil
Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:10 pm
Nope, no landing at Stow. Takeoff out of Pease, couple of low approaches at the Foundation, recover at Pease.
Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:44 am
Awesome. Those vidoes of the Sageburner flying over the desert at just 50ft are facinating to watch!
Chappie
Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:45 am
Any chance of the Navy stepping in and saying "sorry boys, this one is STILL mine!"?
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