Old plane wreck-- Alaska- Miltary

[Versatile]

http://www.adn.com/2012/06/14/2505325/h ... ssion.html

Helicopter crew on training mission finds old plane wreck

Debris found near Knik Glacier may be from a military craft.

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At the site were what appeared to be bone fragments, but further testing will be needed to confirm that, Capt. Tania Bryan with the Alaskan Command said Thursday. The plane looked military, based on material found in the debris, Bryan said. The plane and its occupants have so far not been identified, she said.

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[WallyB]

The plane looked military, based on material found in the debris, Bryan said.

I don't know if this a shot from the wreckage or just a file photo:


Anyone identify the motor ?
Might narrow down the list of candidates.

[The Inspector]

The plane looked military, based on material found in the debris, Bryan said.

I don't know if this a shot from the wreckage or just a file photo:


Anyone identify the motor ?
Might narrow down the list of candidates.

Dreaded red X

[Versatile]

Speculation from the comments section of the paper.

Cool. Probably the missing B17 which disappeared without a trace during World War Two carrying tons of gold ingots. Explains the flight restrictions too....

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[jmkendall]

Hey Inspector, it could have been a circled red X.....

[The Inspector]

Speculation from the comments section of the paper.

Cool. Probably the missing B17 which disappeared without a trace during World War Two carrying tons of gold ingots. Explains the flight restrictions too....

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That was a post war C-54 and it's still out 'there', the missing NWA (not the rap group!) DC-4 was found several years ago.

[JOHN MILLER]

http://news.yahoo.com/old-aircraft-wrec ... 09478.html

from Yahoo news

[JohnB]

I wonder if they rediscovered the C-54 that crashed on the Iliamna glacier near Anchorage in Dec of 1958?
I say rediscovered because it was found by famed bush pilot Don Sheldon.

It was enroute from Elmendorf to Shemya trasporting the base payroll. The wreckage and payroll was never recovered (at least as of 1970-80s).

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[The Inspector]

I wonder if they rediscovered the C-54 that crashed on the Iliamna glacier near Anchorage in Dec of 1958?
It was enrout from Elmendorf to Shemya trasporting the base payroll. The wreckage and payroll was never recovered (at least as of 1970-80s).

That's the one they're still looking for,
the NWA was a chartered load of Merchant Marine sailors returning to the states from, Shanghai Mar. 13, 1948 24 pax 6 crew all lost near Mt. Sanford.

[WallyB]

Dreaded red X

Trying again...


... if not it's on this page:
http://updatednews.ca/2012/06/15/old-ai ... a-glacier/

[51fixer]

Dreaded red X

Trying again...


... if not it's on this page:
http://updatednews.ca/2012/06/15/old-ai ... a-glacier/

If it is a photo of this wreck it looks like 985 with a 2 blade Ham Std prop spider on the crank.
Whether it is from a Twin Beech or Beaver I can't tell.

[Taigh Ramey]

If it is a photo of this wreck it looks like 985 with a 2 blade Ham Std prop spider on the crank.
Whether it is from a Twin Beech or Beaver I can't tell.

I concur with your identification as a P&W 985 and two blade Ham Std prop. BT-13 is also a possibility.

[51fixer]

Dreaded red X

Trying again...


... if not it's on this page:
http://updatednews.ca/2012/06/15/old-ai ... a-glacier/

If it is a photo of this wreck it looks like 985 with a 2 blade Ham Std prop spider on the crank.
Whether it is from a Twin Beech or Beaver I can't tell.

Didn't think of BT. Did they have any in AK?
Any missing Spartan Executives up there?
I went with most used in that region and will probably be wrong.

[Taigh Ramey]

Howard DGA series (Army UC-70 and Navy GH-1,2,3, NH-1 etc) used the 985 too. If I could see the sheet metal on the other side of the engine it might give a better clue.

[Versatile]

http://www.adn.com/2012/06/26/2521241/d ... itary.html

The team put on climbing harnesses and crampons, roped themselves together and started collecting, Dobson said. The investigators worked on the glacier from June 19 to 21. The evidence they gathered -- including possible human remains and some of the plane's life-support equipment -- was flown to their laboratories in Hawaii, Dobson said.

Though there were likely some pieces inside the crevasses, the team stayed on top for safety, Dobson said.

For now, the investigators' official answer is the evidence appears to point to a 1950s-era plane, and there are some initial guesses as to what type of plane they found, Dobson said. Those early assessments are included in reports and won't be shared publicly, she said.

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