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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:15 am 
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Anyone have an update of the eventual fate of the following B-24J-1-NT aircraft?

AAF s/n c/n msn delivered Baugher info other details

42-78770 727 95-15856 24Aug44 RFC at Chanute Mar 31, 1947 N1551M To Mexico 1952-02-19, possibly XB-RIS


42-78774 731 95-15860 24Aug44 registered 1966 to J. S. Ingram, Dallas, TX as N79426

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It looks like XB-RIS may have become XA-KUN which was destroyed in an accident on 15 APR 57

http://aviation-safety.net/database/rec ... -0&lang=en

Here is a pic of that aircraft

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:51 am 
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I have alwasy wondered what type of plane Mexican Singer Pedro Infante died in and this is what I found. Could it be one of these planes?

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Infante was a fanatic of aviation, a hobby that would lead to his death. According to Wilbert Alonzo-Cabrera, his biographer, the actor was co-piloting a Consolidated Aircraft X B-24-D (a variant of the B-24 Liberator), which had been converted from heavy bomber war airplane to air cargo in San Diego, California. The plane crashed 5 minutes after taking off from Mérida, Yucatán, in southeast Mexico.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:29 pm 
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Jesse C. wrote:
I have alwasy wondered what type of plane Mexican Singer Pedro Infante died in and this is what I found. Could it be one of these planes?

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Infante was a fanatic of aviation, a hobby that would lead to his death. According to Wilbert Alonzo-Cabrera, his biographer, the actor was co-piloting a Consolidated Aircraft X B-24-D (a variant of the B-24 Liberator), which had been converted from heavy bomber war airplane to air cargo in San Diego, California. The plane crashed 5 minutes after taking off from Mérida, Yucatán, in southeast Mexico.



I believe it was the plane pictured above.

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So what is the airplane in the distance under the tail of the B-24 in the photo above?



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Baldeagle wrote:
So what is the airplane in the distance under the tail of the B-24 in the photo above?



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It looks a lot like a Cessna Bobcat, but something doesn't feel quite right about the tail.

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thanks for the information

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:17 pm 
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Found this image of the wreck of the B-24 in the 1963 film Asi era Pedro Infante:
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There were a couple other images (including a shot of Pedro's charred remains, identified by a bracelet :shock: ) but this was the most identifiable. IIRC "TAMSA" stood for Transportes Aereos Mexicanos, S.A.

The 1966 film La Vida de Pedro Infante also used a B-24 in the re-enactment of the crash. I think you'll recognize it:
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Story was he was trying to get back to Mexico City in a big hurry - a judge had just invalidated his latest marriage and ruled that he was still married to his ex-wife...

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N79426 is not in the January, 1971 U. S. Civil Aircraft Register.

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RMAllnutt wrote:
Baldeagle wrote:
So what is the airplane in the distance under the tail of the B-24 in the photo above?



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It looks a lot like a Cessna Bobcat, but something doesn't feel quite right about the tail.

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Looks like a high-winged monoplane to me. It's definitely not a Bobcat, though. I agree that is not a Bobcat tail.


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SaxMan wrote:
RMAllnutt wrote:
Baldeagle wrote:
So what is the airplane in the distance under the tail of the B-24 in the photo above?



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It looks a lot like a Cessna Bobcat, but something doesn't feel quite right about the tail.

Cheers,
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Looks like a high-winged monoplane to me. It's definitely not a Bobcat, though. I agree that is not a Bobcat tail.

I'm thinking Fairchild 24C with the wings and maybe horizontal tail removed.
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CORRECTION

The North American Aviation constructor numbers I provided were incorrect they should be as follows, the manufacture serial numbers are correct.

Model B-24J-1-NT

AAF s/n______NAA c/n______NAA msn

42-78770_____726_________95-15856

42-78774_____730_________95-15860


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Almost looks like a Bellanca p100


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:22 pm 
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The FAA have very kindly advised:

"Aircraft that was registered as N79426 Consolidated B-24 J, and serial number 42-78774 was deregistered as of 04-21-1977"

Any thoughts on what happened to this "last" NAA B-24J airframe etc???

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