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Re: Evergreen P-38 for sale

Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:30 pm

Right! Put on the old John Stokes, and then on the ex C.A.F "Scatterbrain II" "M" BACK SEAT and charge $$$$ for rides!! :D

Re: Evergreen P-38 for sale

Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:29 pm

Evergreens TBM and Ford Trimotor are now listed with Courtesy.
http://www.courtesyaircraft.com/Current ... venger.htm
http://www.courtesyaircraft.com/Current ... 5-AT-B.htm

Re: Evergreen P-38 for sale

Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:36 am

So does anyone know what became of YIPPEE???

I'd mortgage my cat for a P-38 :supz:

Re: Evergreen P-38 for sale

Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:21 pm

Invader26 wrote:So does anyone know what became of YIPPEE???

I'd mortgage my cat for a P-38 :supz:



The rumor is that after it was used for publicity stateside, it was stripped of the vermillion paint and sent to the PTO like any regular P-38. And like virtually all P-38's sent to the PTO, it met an inglorious end.

http://forum.armyairforces.com/P38-Yippee-m168870.aspx

Re: Evergreen P-38 for sale

Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:12 pm

Warbirdnerd wrote:Evergreens TBM and Ford Trimotor are now listed with Courtesy.
http://www.courtesyaircraft.com/Current ... venger.htm
http://www.courtesyaircraft.com/Current ... 5-AT-B.htm

I wonder if their B-17 will go on the market?

Re: Evergreen P-38 for sale

Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:20 pm

We can't answer the question as to whether any aircraft will be for sale until we know which entity owns which aircraft.
Mr. Smith owns some.
The Museum owns others.
Evergreen may (or may not) own still others.
Still others, like the SR-71, are on loan to the museum.

But since the museum is separate from Evergreen aviation, I wouldn't expect a fire sale.
I don't know about Smith's financial health....he might or might not...sell some of his property.

Re: Evergreen P-38 for sale

Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:05 pm

Ownership is pretty easy to find as most of the aircraft are still registered. A search for Evergreen in the aircraft registry part of the FAA website shows the P-38 is registered to Evergreen Vintage Aircrat Inc. I suspect there is a spelling error on part of the FAA there because a lot of the other once flyers (including the B-17) are registered to Evergreen Vintage Aircraft Inc. Moving asset registration from one entity to another when under the investigation eyes like Evergreen is pretty risky. The TBM and trimotor (and only those two) are both owned by Evergreen holdings.

Re: Evergreen P-38 for sale

Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:11 pm

Three if the airplanes are for sale. The P-38, TBM and Tri-motor. I have a feeling that the number of airplanes owned solely by the museum will end up being mostly the stuff on loan from the government, the Spruce Goose and maybe a few others. I'm willing to bet that all the warbirds and some of
The more interesting civilian airplanes are the property of Del Smith, the Airline or one of the many other groups with Evergreen connections. I'd also say that I'd bet that more than one financial institution and government organization might have interest in them also. Along with ALPA and any other group that is owed money by Evergreen.

Re: Evergreen P-38 for sale

Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:22 pm

Has for what belongs to Del or EVG (it's really the same) include B-17, FG, P-40, Spit, 109, P-38, TBM, T-28, A-22, Tri-Motor, DC-3, DH-4, SNJ, S-2B, Stinson, PT-17, P-51 ect. Once you subtract Del/EVGs and the gov't's there's not much left that truly belongs to the museum. I've been told a number of times by people I know at the museum that their biggest fear ing walking in to find a empty building! That day seems to be coming!

Re: Evergreen P-38 for sale

Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:11 pm

Evergreen Aviation no longer flying.


http://www.oregonlive.com/business/inde ... ation.html

Re: Evergreen P-38 for sale

Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:53 pm

I was told that EVG turned in their certificate yesterday.

Re: Evergreen P-38 for sale

Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:43 am

Jack Cook wrote:Has for what belongs to Del or EVG (it's really the same) include B-17, FG, P-40, Spit, 109, P-38, TBM, T-28, A-22, Tri-Motor, DC-3, DH-4, SNJ, S-2B, Stinson, PT-17, P-51 ect. Once you subtract Del/EVGs and the gov't's there's not much left that truly belongs to the museum. I've been told a number of times by people I know at the museum that their biggest fear ing walking in to find a empty building! That day seems to be coming!

Wow, thats a sobering tought, Jack.

Re: Evergreen P-38 for sale

Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:44 am

What will happen to the Spruce Goose?

Re: Evergreen P-38 for sale

Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:45 am

Pat Carry wrote:What will happen to the Spruce Goose?


NASM?

Re: Evergreen P-38 for sale

Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:25 pm

Warbird Kid wrote:
Pat Carry wrote:What will happen to the Spruce Goose?


NASM?

A great idea but where would they display this huge aircraft?
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