Obscure Airframes

Aircraft Mech Paul · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:44 am

Great list,

I love seeing stuff like this. It is too bad that for the most part, folks "back in the day" didn't take into consideration the idea of actually keeping the more unique stuff around...even if it was one of a kind testbeds or prototypes.

Paul

setter · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:17 am

Just to confirm there are 1 X complete Vengance at Camden Museum NSW Australia and enough parts to build 2X vengances at Wangarrata in storage pending a rebuild - There are rumors of other bits in Western Australia and PNG so I guess there could be more but thats it for now as known

Regards
John P

airnutz · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:45 am

Aircraft Mech Paul wrote:

Great list,

I love seeing stuff like this. It is too bad that for the most part, folks "back in the day" didn't take into consideration the idea of actually keeping the more unique stuff around...even if it was one of a kind testbeds or prototypes.

Paul

Actually, the consideration was there..but the dollars were sparse on
mechanics and historians payscale, in spite of their fervor. I remember
a lot of transient aircraft, components and support gear moving residence
in backyards in the 60's....machines changing hands at packrat prices or
services traded....ahhh..I love a musty barn!!

Chris Brame · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:59 am

Quote:

Sole-Surviving American WWII Aircraft

This may be fudging, but could we add the following:

Douglas O-46A 35-179 at NMUSAF
Martin B-10 (export Martin 139W) at NMUSAF

since there were O-46s and B-10s in the Philippines at the start of the war, and the Dutch still had some Martin 139s in Java, and...

Republic AT-12 at POF

Dan K · **Posted:** Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:22 am

Oh yeah, check out this bad boy...the BTD-1 at Wings of Eagles

http://www.warplane.org/images/BTD_01.jpg

A 2nd job and 2nd mortgage on the house should just about cover it! :wink:

Jase · **Posted:** Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:05 am

How bout the Curtiss AT-9 "Jeep" at Wright-Pat?

airnutz · **Posted:** Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:10 am

Jase wrote:

How bout the Curtiss AT-9 "Jeep" at Wright-Pat?

..don't forget the Pima 'Jeep', she's bent-n-crumpled..but she's do-able.
Lots'a TLC :heart:

though. Jamesintuscon...last year 'bout this time..
assured us she was in line but there were projects ahead of 'er.

It's the Jeep that went searching for a missing Stearman, but found itself
on the 'bad end' of a box canyon on the side of a mountain in 1943.

edit,
Forgot to mention, the crew survived and walked out...

edit,
Went back over my notes..the AT-9 is in long-term storage but will
eventually 'get got to'.

Wolverine · **Posted:** Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:16 pm

I didn't include the AT-9 for a reason...two exist. There's one at the NMUSAF.

The AT-12 is essentially a P-35...at least, I keep it in my P-35 list...I think (can't remember right off the top of my head...that there's what...hmm three P-35s? NMUSAF, Weeks, Sweden)

airnutz · **Posted:** Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:58 pm

Wolverine wrote:

I didn't include the AT-9 for a reason...two exist. There's one at the NMUSAF.

The AT-12 is essentially a P-35...at least, I keep it in my P-35 list...I think (can't remember right off the top of my head...that there's what...hmm three P-35s? NMUSAF, Weeks, Sweden)

From the looks of the Pima AT-9, one could hardly call it a survivor. If my
memory serves me correctly the Arizona rocks did a pretty good job of
testing the sheet-metal mechanics religion when they finally get around to
her. This is one of those cases where I wish museums would archive
complete photos of their 'ladies in waiting' projects available on the net.
It would make it easier on us bean-counters, as well as making the public
at large aware of where some left over bits-n-bobs need to go.

I'll send James a pm tonight to see how much of the bird remains.

jamesintucson · **Joined:** Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:42 am **Posts:** 546

The AT-9 is far down the project list I'm afraid. Go here for a photo,

http://www.pimaair.org/Acftdatapics/Curtiss%20At-9A.htm

That should get y'all there. Also we've updated our website to include a complete list of everything currently in the collection with photos and including the projects in restoration and storage. Enjoy

http://www.pimaair.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=53&Itemid=238

James

airnutz · **Posted:** Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:53 pm

Thanks James for your replies and links, I'm happy to be corrected! :wink:

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