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Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:15 pm
Here is Erickson's "109" with the Allison hanging on the front...

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Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:36 pm
If it is all working out as intended, the prop/spinner is in the same location as a stock Bf-109G and maintaining the same thrust line, and when cowled-up, it should appear as a stock Bf-109G (custom exhaust from the Allison routed out through the same locations as in a stock Bf-109G).
Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:27 am
JohnTerrell wrote:If it is all working out as intended, the prop/spinner is in the same location as a stock Bf-109G and maintaining the same thrust line, and when cowled-up, it should appear as a stock Bf-109G (custom exhaust from the Allison routed out through the same locations as in a stock Bf-109G).

So excited for this one. If successful, I hope this Allison package becomes available for other Hispano 109 projects out there. So they can have the same balance of historical authenticity from the outside and a more reliable, cheaper, powerplant alternative on the inside. Bravo!
Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:02 am
That sounds great, but I'd love to see one Hispano flying in full Spanish markings.
Richard
Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:02 am
raconnel wrote:That sounds great, but I'd love to see one Hispano flying in full Spanish markings.
Richard
Agreed!
Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:22 am
Think about all the different engines Bf-109 variants and derivatives have flown behind. I can think of Kestrel, DB601, DB605, Jumo 211 (Avia S.199), 12Z-17 and Merlin (HA-1112), and now, an Allison!
Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:58 pm
PropsRule wrote:Think about all the different engines Bf-109 variants and derivatives have flown behind. I can think of Kestrel, DB601, DB605, Jumo 211 (Avia S.199), 12Z-17 and Merlin (HA-1112), and now, an Allison!
I'm seeing 7 different powerplants from your list! I wonder if any other airframe has had more powerplants attached to it?
Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:33 pm
PropsRule wrote:Think about all the different engines Bf-109 variants and derivatives have flown behind. I can think of Kestrel, DB601, DB605, Jumo 211 (Avia S.199), 12Z-17 and Merlin (HA-1112), and now, an Allison!
Add to them the HS 12Z-89 (first 25 HA´s) and the Jumo 210 (109 A-D) as far as series go. (ok, Kestrel wasn´t series, but prototype, V1). There was even an prototype with an R-1830 Twin Wasp SC-G (1200 hp), V21,(c/n 1770, D-IFKQ), and another prototype with a BMW 801 A-0, Bf 109 X (c/n 5608, D-ITXP). So even more different engines. Maybe, if Spain would have got the Allison, they would have gone for that version?
Michael
Bf 109 V21:
Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:44 pm
That's just not right.
Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:17 pm
So we're now up to 10 different powerplants for the 109 airframe. 11 if you count the Allison.
Tue Mar 08, 2016 7:59 pm
redvanner: Excellent information! Thank you! The radial engine changes the look of the '109 quite a bit, along with that different canopy.
Warbird Kid: I can't think of another airframe with so many different engines used. Eleven. Wow.
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