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Dec 7th 1941, a day which will live in infamy

Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:27 am

REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR

Re: Dec 7th 1941, a day which will live in infamy

Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:22 pm

I took this shot at an airshow several years ago and later placed the text into it, as it's appropriate for today, I think:
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Re: Dec 7th 1941, a day which will live in infamy

Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:36 pm

RIP to all serving then who paid the price. We will never forget!

Hand salute...

-Tom

Re: Dec 7th 1941, a day which will live in infamy

Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:44 pm

I've no idea if this question has ever been asked on WIX... Was the Japanese task force able recover all of the aircraft returning from the attack on Pearl or did any splash in the Pacific?

Re: Dec 7th 1941, a day which will live in infamy

Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:17 pm

A day I'm sure all of us (especially on this forum) will never forget.

In honor of this day, here is a list of the surviving aircraft from Pearl Harbor. Add in any that I may have forgotten.

Grumman J2F-4 Duck...............(Flying)...............Chuck Greenhill
Interstate Cadet........................(Flying)...............Lost Aviators of Pearl Harbor
Curtiss P-40B............................(Flying)...............Collings Foundation
North American P-64................(Flying)...............EAA
FORD 4-AT-E Tri-Motor............(Flying)...............Mid America Flight Museum
Sikorsky JRS-1...........................(Static)...............NASM
Aeronca TC-65..........................(Static)...............Pacific Aviation Museum
Douglas SBD-2 Dauntless..........(Static)...............NNAM

Re: Dec 7th 1941, a day which will live in infamy

Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:17 pm

DP DELETE
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Re: Dec 7th 1941, a day which will live in infamy

Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:36 pm

Not warbird related, but Pearl Harbor related...

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-worl ... attle-news

Re: Dec 7th 1941, a day which will live in infamy

Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:43 pm

Live video feed from NOAA ROV diving near Pearl Harbor on Japanese Midget Sub:

http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/okeanos/media/exstream/exstream_03.html

Re: Dec 7th 1941, a day which will live in infamy

Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:49 pm

deskpro590 wrote:I've no idea if this question has ever been asked on WIX... Was the Japanese task force able recover all of the aircraft returning from the attack on Pearl or did any splash in the Pacific?

The Japanese did lose 29 aircraft as I recall. Most of the losses occurred during the second wave when the Americans were able to man their guns and respond. I really dont know if there was any accidents when the aircraft returned to their carriers. You would think there would have to be a loss or two there.

Re: Dec 7th 1941, a day which will live in infamy

Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:50 pm

Left Seat wrote:Live video feed from NOAA ROV diving near Pearl Harbor on Japanese Midget Sub:

http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/okeanos/media/exstream/exstream_03.html



WOW! Excellent link Left Seat! :drink3:

Thanks!

-Tom

Re: Dec 7th 1941, a day which will live in infamy

Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:57 pm

Peral Harbor day but don't forget that No 1 Sqn RAAF Hudson bombers attacked the Japanese Malaya invasion fleet five hours before the Pearl attack. Several Hudsons lost...

We were all brothers in arms in this conflict...

Re: Dec 7th 1941, a day which will live in infamy

Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:09 pm

The live stream of the (2) Type A Ko-hyoteki midget subs was pretty interesting.

I've seen the stills from the 2005 expedition, but, the live video feed was dramatic.

Video excerpts from the 2016 dive on the midget sub sunk by the USS Ward:
http://sanctuaries.noaa.gov/news/press/japanese-mini-subs/minisub1.mp4

Hopefully, the complete video will be archived and posted to YouTube soon.

It was noted that there was a fair amount of artifact deterioration since the last survey in 2005. Keep in mind that the metal of these midget subs were designed to resist the marine environment.

Imagine what is going on with aircraft in salt water... some 75 years later.

NOAA video of a PBY lost during Pearl Harbor
http://sanctuaries.noaa.gov/shipwrecks/pby-5/

NOAA video of a B29 submerged off of Tinian
http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/okeanos/explorations/ex1605/logs/jul9/welcome.html

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Image courtesy of NOAA
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Re: Dec 7th 1941, a day which will live in infamy

Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:15 pm

Invader26 wrote:Peral Harbor day but don't forget that No 1 Sqn RAAF Hudson bombers attacked the Japanese Malaya invasion fleet five hours before the Pearl attack. Several Hudsons lost...

We were all brothers in arms in this conflict...


Pretty interesting. Had to look around a little bit to find out about the No 1 Sqn. The review of this 2006 book by John Burton talks about it.

http://stonebooks.com/archives/061126.shtml

Re: Dec 7th 1941, a day which will live in infamy

Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:44 pm

did any splash in the Pacific?
Yes, a Zero was found underwater off shore in deep water

...there were five aircraft to splash in Pearl Harbor water.
Two D3A in Middle Loch, One B5N in Southeast Loch, and two B5N in the south channel

Re: Dec 7th 1941, a day which will live in infamy

Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:40 am

Warbird Kid wrote:A day I'm sure all of us (especially on this forum) will never forget.

In honor of this day, here is a list of the surviving aircraft from Pearl Harbor. Add in any that I may have forgotten.

Grumman J2F-4 Duck...............(Flying)...............Chuck Greenhill
Interstate Cadet........................(Flying)...............Lost Aviators of Pearl Harbor
Curtiss P-40B............................(Flying)...............Collings Foundation
North American P-64................(Flying)...............EAA
FORD 4-AT-E Tri-Motor............(Flying)...............Mid America Flight Museum
Sikorsky JRS-1...........................(Static)...............NASM
Aeronca TC-65..........................(Static)...............Pacific Aviation Museum
Douglas SBD-2 Dauntless..........(Static)...............NNAM



What's the history of the P-64 and Ford Tri-Motor related to Pearl Harbor?
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