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Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:07 am
August, too bad we didn't run into each other! I'll have to post some pics!
Jerry
Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:54 am
If you took any photos of the Spartan C3-165 I would be very interested to see them!
Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:26 pm
Thanks for the photos, August !
AnyOne have info on the Spad ? Is it being repaired else where ?
Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:44 pm
I was told that that Spad is just about repaired, and just needs a new engine. They are looking for the donation of a "gently used, airworthy Lycoming 0-320 E2-D, or near equivalent, with logs (and no prop strikes), and an airworthy McCauley 1A175/ETM8042 prop." The bird could still be flying this year if they get those items.
Contact: Mark Mondello, Rhinebeck Aerodrome Museum - (845) 752-3206 or
Carol@oldrhinebeck.org 9 Norton Rd., Red Hook, NY 12571
August
Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:11 pm
You should shoot these photos over to the ORA FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/oldrhinebeckaerodrome/
Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:38 pm
Wow, that's a very active FB page with lots of shots, past and present. Now I'll know where to go to find out what is flying there lately.
August
Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:16 pm
The Pup is lovely, but it did not fly, because it was sold last week and will be leaving Rhinebeck.
So, who bought the Pup, and where is it going?
Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:43 pm
Splendid pics August, thanks so much! It's also gratifying to see so much interest here for ORA stuff.
Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:22 am
tulsaboy wrote:If you took any photos of the Spartan C3-165 I would be very interested to see them!
Here are some Spartan shots from the William's collection:
http://www.russellw.com/photoalbum/phot ... tRecord=35
Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:30 am
old iron wrote:The Pup is lovely, but it did not fly, because it was sold last week and will be leaving Rhinebeck.
So, who bought the Pup, and where is it going?
This was told to me pretty openly, so I guess I can repeat. Coughlin sold it to Owls Head, except for the engine, which is ORA's and will be staying.
You might be thinking, Gee, Owls Head already has the old King Pup, what's up with that? I was told to watch for developments on that front. I did notice that the Owls Head Pup was not on view when I was up there Saturday.
August
Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:57 am
airknocker,
Thanks for the link to the Spartan pics! One of those (the black and orange one) is the ORA C3, the others (the blue and yellows ones) are of another one that resides in Wisconsin. The blue and yellow one has been flying since the 1960's with an engine (I think) from a Stearman, so it doesn't have the long nose that the C3-165 should have. The ORA example, from what I understand, hasn't flown since the mid-80's (someone told me 1986). So it just sits in one of the hangars. I can't imagine that it is a high priority airframe for ORA, as it was simply typical of biplanes of the era and not something with a particular tie to either New York or to ORA other than it being one of the dozens of airframes located and restored by Cole Palen.
kevin
Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:51 pm
In a conversation with one of Cole's pilot/mechanic/characters back in the '70s, he related that aircraft would get one restoration. After that any efforts would be directed to a new replica and when the older ship wore out, off to the museum building for static display. Over the years those statics grew and probably deserve a rebuild. Time and money being the main factors.
Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:21 pm
That's a really interesting approach. I guess the product of a different era as well. Does explain the huge quantity of statics there. The Spartan is of interest to me since it was built in Tulsa. Would be great to have it back here in Tulsa at the local museum. I would suspect that it will never get an airworthy restotation at ORA as there is really no reason for them to do so. Would be lots cheaper to just buy an airworthy WACO or Stearman than to try to restore that one with its Wright engine. Would love to see it in person someday. Thanks for the video link.
Kevin
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