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Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:40 pm
The first 4 pics are the turbine powered YAT-28E.
Not sure what's the thinking behind hanging Sidewinders on a Trojan.
Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:13 pm
The sidewinders would give it some defensive capability against being shot down by Migs. Also could be used against helicopters. It increase the threat level, or hostile environment that it can perform ops . Maybe even in a hostile environment where there are no fighter jets overhead.
Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:17 pm
Cool pictures. My favorite Navy aircraft load out.
Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:10 pm
I noticed the turbine engine on the Trojan, I suppose the extra power would be needed if that want use use all the external stores pylons.
The A-10 also carries Sidewinders, meaning someone knows that even CAS types might run into air to air action.
Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:47 am
YAT-28 turbo prop..
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:26 am
Snake45 wrote:The first 4 pics are the turbine powered YAT-28E.
Not sure what's the thinking behind hanging Sidewinders on a Trojan.
It's a good cheap simple platform if you are working on the missiles, not the airplane
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:55 am
I would be surprised if they used a T-28 during the sidewinder development program.
It was a Navy program and I'd think they would have had Cougarsreadily available at China Lake.
Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:57 am
Anyone recognize the wing tanks on the Navy bird? They look like external fuel tanks, but a bit of strange shape, and the bulge underneath looks unique. Pump in the bulge? Perhaps a vent/dump line underneath? Chemical dispenser?
Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:34 am
I'd guess chemical dispensers, but based on F-86 various 120-gal externals.
Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:35 am
My thought on the pods was perhaps they were some kind of early ECM pod?
The winders could be C models....used on F-8s as radar guided missiles, the AIM-9Cs ended up being used as anti-radiation missiles for use against SAM sites? Not sure about the time frame.....might 've been post Vietnam...
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:47 pm
eze240 wrote:......The winders could be C models....used on F-8s as radar guided missiles, the AIM-9Cs ended up being used as anti-radiation missiles for use against SAM sites? Not sure about the time frame.....might 've been post Vietnam...
The picture with the AIM-9 is stamped "5-15-62" which likely refers to May 15th, 1962. So before Vietnam got especially heavy.
Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:15 pm
JohnB wrote:I would be surprised if they used a T-28 during the sidewinder development program.
It was a Navy program and I'd think they would have had Cougarsreadily available at China Lake.
Hellcats were employed to test Sparrows so why not Trojans to test Sidewinders?
Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:32 pm
C VEICH wrote:Hellcats were employed to test Sparrows so why not Trojans to test Sidewinders?
Heat seeking missiles and Trojans? What a coincidence.
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