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Grumman and Northrop bits turn up

Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:56 am

Recent arrivals in Wendover - not owned by Historic Wendover Airfield museum but stored in a unrestored WWII hangar on the field. The F-5 piece is literally just the tail section. The Grumman has wings as well - I am assuming an ex-air spray plane based on the colors.

ImagePXL_20211113_170601669 by Tom Petersen, on Flickr

Tom P.

Re: Grumman and NAA bits turn up

Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:43 am

TBM last registered to Tom Reilly, deregistered because the triennial re-registration was not submitted. Bu #53708 according to Joe Baugher.

rom the FAA records:
Serial Number 6810 Certificate Issue Date 02/12/1980
Manufacturer Name GRUMMAN Mode S Code (base 8 / oct) 51170300
Model TBM-3 Mode S Code (base 16 / hex) A4F0C0
Year Manufacturer None Cancel Date 10/06/2014
Reason For Cancellation Expiration
Type Registration Individual

Aircraft Registration Prior to Deregistration
Name TOM REILLY VINTAGE ACFT

https://www.airhistory.net/photo/192573/N4172A
http://warbirdregistry.org/avengerregis ... 4172a.html
https://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N4172A.html
https://www.jetphotos.com/registration/N4172A
http://www.warbirdsintlnow.com/assets/w ... oldies.pdf (great photo of this aircraft here!)

https://nbavengers.com/489-2/u-s-plains-eastern-and-southern-mountain-states/

Aerial Applicators Inc, Salt Lake City

Aerial Applicators of Salt Lake City appeared to have owned eight TBMs, of which six were numbered D15, D16, D17, D18, D19 and D20. Four of them eventually ended up with Hicks and Lawrence in Ontario.

[Bob Forbes] was in Salmon, ID in 1961 at the airport and there were 2 or 3 Aerial Applicator TBM’s flying out of there, sort of. They were by far the worse looking aircraft I ever saw. They did manage to keep at least one flying between break downs. One even aborted a take off AFTER barely getting airborne and getting it back on the runway and getting it stopped before he ran out of runway. – Posted to TBMs – Mil & Civ on 1 Dec 14.

N4172A / BuNo unknown / #D18 / 1963-1972

Re: Grumman and NAA bits turn up

Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:16 pm

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Re: Grumman and NAA bits turn up

Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:21 pm

I remember seeing that turkey back at Tom's place in the nineties. Got a couple of pictures of it..

Phil

Re: Grumman and NAA bits turn up

Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:33 pm

I'm 100% certain that the blue tail is from T-38 61-0898.
http://www.tomhildrethphotos.com/images ... 10898A.jpg
http://www.tomhildrethphotos.com/AIRCRA ... S/T38.html

Re: Grumman and NAA bits turn up

Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:42 pm

T-38/F-5 are Northrop products, not NAA.

Re: Grumman and NAA bits turn up

Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:49 pm

bdk wrote:T-38/F-5 are Northrop products, not NAA.

Right you are - I must have posted before a sufficient amount of caffeine was in the blood stream!

Sadly, I seriously doubt much will happen to improve the TBM's status in the near future. It actually looks in better shape in those 2008 photos in Anoka - but hope springs eternal!

Tom P.

Re: Grumman and NAA bits turn up

Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:40 pm

I remember seeing that turkey back at Tom's place in the nineties. Got a couple of pictures of it..

Phil


Ditto! That was a fun place to visit back in the days.

Chuck Gardner used to fly T-6's for ''Fun Adventures'' not sure this was the name.....

Re: Grumman and NAA bits turn up

Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:06 pm

A friend of mine owned a C-1 Trader and he would load a few of us into the plane and get us out of New England after a long winter and bring us to Florida. Tom would let him store the plane at his museum in between the VAC airshow and Sun n Fun.
Got the nickel tour a few times, if I only knew then what I know now..Good times..

http://www.warbirdregistry.org/trackerr ... 36788.html

Phil

Re: Grumman and NAA bits turn up

Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:44 am

Isn't that the TBM that is/was owned by Mike Rawson? Anyone know if he's still working at Vulture's Row?

Mac

Re: Grumman and NAA bits turn up

Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:46 am

The TBM and T-38 tail are/were Mike Rawson’s. He has moved on from Vulture’s Row.

Re: Grumman and NAA bits turn up

Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:52 am

Thanks for the response, Nerd.

Mac

Re: Grumman and NAA bits turn up

Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:47 am

The tail is an AT-38B, former fighter lead-in trainer from Holloman.

Based on the holes in it, looks like it may have been an ABDR trainer or fire trainer.

Re: Grumman and Northrop bits turn up

Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:39 pm

Perhaps the T-38 ended up in Wendover via the DRMO office at Hill?

At Dyess there was a (not wtecked, but too far gone to restore) T-38...despite the fact there weren't any on base.

Re: Grumman and Northrop bits turn up

Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:32 am

I have to go and check my old photos... I remember a yellow TBM hulk in amongst the piles of aluminium at Tom Reilly's Kissimmee place. Probably this one then.
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