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Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:53 am
Rumours are gathering that the Lancaster i think the UK rego one is flying to NZ via Oz in 2007 for the film dambusters...
Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:58 am
Pfffftttt.
'The UK one' isn't a 'reggo' aircraft as it belongs to and is operated by the RAF as a commemorative aircraft; it's still a military machine: PA474, no civil registration.
Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:08 am
Wishful thinking but why fly all the way there when they can film her here? Read on the net that is the reason that Just jane is doing a highspeed run again
Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:03 am
Just a few questions to counter the rumors...
Why would you take a Lanc and fly it half way across the globe to Oz...when the Lanc was actually based in England? :confused:
So by having the Lanc in England, you have the correct plane and location...
Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:31 am
Well...on the other hand, ya' gotta' ask yourself, "Just how much clout does Peter Jackson have?"
Were it me, I'd try to get the Canadian Lanc to fly to the UK for filming.
Mudge the logical
Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:13 pm
They could have multiple reasons for flying it to NZ if true...
Might be reasons:
- The weather is better there. It's expensive to have a film crew sitting around waiting for good weather.
- Low flying is better there because there are less people around. And the landscape of Europe might have changed too much to represent 1943.
On the other hand I hope they will film at RAF Scampton too. I've been there 2 years ago and as far as I know it's still looking a lot like it was during the war. Except for the new control tower and extended runway.
It would spoil the movie if you would be watching and thinking “Hey, that’s not RAF Scampton!?”.
Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:20 pm
peter wrote:Wishful thinking but why fly all the way there when they can film her here? Read on the net that is the reason that Just jane is doing a highspeed run again
Very wishful thinking
I think youre right here Peter, most likely a film crew dispatched to East Kirby to get some film in the can of a running Lanc in a correct location.
Absolutely zilch, zero chance of the RAF BBMF ever using up all that time and flying hours to fly PA474 to NZ for a film...just not going to happen.
BEaring in mind the logistics of trying to get the CWH Lanc over to the UK became a non-starter, I can't even see the Canadian one making the trip, as pressumably it would have to go west across Canada, and then anti-clockwise around the Pacific rim to get there......and back.
Nope....not a chance
Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:13 pm
Firebird...Not all that clear about your logistics. Why would a flight from Canada go west to get to the UK? Wouldn't that be the long way by far?
Mudge the geographically challenged
Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:24 pm
I think by "the trip" he meant the hypothetical trip to NZ.
As another issue besides "logistics" -- aren't we, at this point, past the time when such valuable aircraft are exposed to the hazards of open-ocean flying, except perhaps to effect a permanent relocation and then only as a last resort? I kind of hope so. We all know that there is no amount of insurance that could truly compensate for the loss of a flyable Lanc.
August
Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:04 pm
k5083 wrote:I think by "the trip" he meant the hypothetical trip to NZ.
Correct.
That reducing over the water exposure time is why I would assume, if hypothetically the Canadian Lanc were to make the trip to NZ, it would have to go the long way anti-clockwise around the Pacific rim, and back the same way. That's a lot of flying and a lot of planning and advance support logistics.
As I said.....no chance.
Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:55 pm
So...was the Memphis Belle movie the last time we will see large warbirds making the epic journey across the pond? As I recall that went rather well, at least I don't remember hearing about massive troubles, other than the sad loss of one of the French airplanes during filming.
Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:08 pm
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30076
I don't think they will use either the BBMF Lancaster or the Canadian example - flying scenes are probably all going to be CGI anyway. In the article above Peter Jackson confirms 10 full scale, fiberglass replicas are going to be built which I
assume will be for ground/taxi shots.
Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:20 pm
Absolutely zilch, zero chance of the RAF BBMF ever using up all that time and flying hours to fly PA474 to NZ for a film...just not going to happen.
BEaring in mind the logistics of trying to get the CWH Lanc over to the UK became a non-starter, I can't even see the Canadian one making the trip, as pressumably it would have to go west across Canada, and then anti-clockwise around the Pacific rim to get there......and back.
I think it would be great to have a Lanc fly out, and if there is concerns about chewing up flying hours, just leave it down under and avoid the waste of flying hours taking it back up top! smiles
regards
Mark P
Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:10 am
Hi,
I too, think that flying one of the airworthy Lancasters all the way down to Australia would be a monumental undrtaking for either the RAF or the CWH. But, it sure would be nice to see both of them in the air together flying....but that is just wishful thinking on my part.
Paul
Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:27 am
Does anyone here know just how much work it would take to get "Just Jane" airworthy again?
Dan
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