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 Post subject: Arizona Locator
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:21 pm 
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I have made all the updates to the Arizona Locator that I can on my own. You can find the list at...
http://www.aerialvisuals.ca/Locator.php?Region=Arizona

If you don't mind, take at look at the entries with "NEED HELP". If you can fill in any of the blanks click the "NEED HELP" link or the red "+" beside it.

Thanks in advance for an info you can chip in.

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EDIT: I have what remains of the list to my most recent post.

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 Post subject: Re: Arizona Locator
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:56 pm 
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I was only in the area last week as it happens:

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#2: Are there a number of MiG-15s at the Coolidge Airport?

the airfield was pretty desterted when I was there - if they are in a hangars then I didn't have access - saw no signs of then outside

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#21: Is there T-6, C-123, F-8 and/or MiG-15 at the Phoenix Deer Valley Airport?

there is certainly a C-123 parked up - didn't get a photo as I was tired and there was a lot of construction


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 Post subject: Re: Arizona Locator
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mrhenniger wrote:
#14: Are there any aircraft displayed at Falcon Field in Mesa?


The Arizona Wing of the CAF is located at Falcon and has a number of aircraft on display. There are also several DC-3s, DC-6s, Harpoons, Canberras, and others scattered about the airport.

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#18: Is there a F-96 in Goodyear?


Not that I'm aware of but there is a T-33 on display within the ROTC compound of Agua Fria Union High School. You can see it in google earth here:
33d 26m 32.21s N
112d 20m 41.79s W

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#20: Is there a T-38 at Williams AFB?


Yes, on a pole.

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#21: Is there T-6, C-123, F-8 and/or MiG-15 at the Phoenix Deer Valley Airport?


There used to be several T-6s at Deer Valley including several ex-Sky Typer machines but I'm not sure what is there now. The entire Cactus Squadron was based there but I'm not sure what has happened since the loss of Carl Schmeider and his T-6. The Crusader are all gone now. Not sure about the Mig-15 but there is a Mig-17 amongst all the L-39s which can bee google earthed at:
33d 41m 29.59s N
112d 04m 54.87s W


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Titan Missile Museum is located at 31 54 11.58N and 110 59 56.60W on Google earth. Hope this helps
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The Titan Missile Museum is a part of Pima Air and Space Museum. You can go to www.pimaair.org\ and find it liste at the top of the PASM home page.
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Yes there is a HU-16 at Tucson International Airport. I will get the id tomorrow and post
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Mike,

Some additional info:

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#11: Is there a T-38 displayed in Mesa?


It is mounted on a pylon at Williams Gateway Airport.(The old Williams Air Force Base)


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#13: Is there a F9F in a Pioneer Park in Mesa?


There was up until approxamately 20 years ago. It was taken down and disposed of for liability reasons.

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#22: I have a F-86, F-104, F-84 and T-33 listed at the Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport. Are there any other airframes displayed at this airport?


All are located in the Arizona Air Guard facility. All are in good shape. The F-86 is located at the gate. The others are inside the facility. Unknown if there are any other airframes.

Add to your list an F-86D mounted on a pylon in Chandler.

Also, there is a T-33 mounted on a pylon at the American Legion in Apache Junction

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25 and 26. You can never tell what is hidden away back in the scrap yards. It is likely that there are parts of sabres in the Dross yard but I've never noticed one intact in there. The scrap dealers do not encourage visitors who aren't planning on dropping large amounts of $$$ on them. Its hard enough to get some of those guys to deal with you when you do want to buy something. Also Bob's Airpark is long gone, sold out when Bob Hoover died about 8 years ago.

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 Post subject: AZ locator
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There is an F-84F at Gila Bend AFAF, well maintained, and a number of de-milled aircraft waiting to be targets on the ranges: 6 or so A-4M's, 4 A3D's, several F-106 fuselages, an A-7E in great shape, several AH-1's and Mohawks. Also, if I'm not mistaken, an old Mace missile. Also at Gila Bend civil airport are two RF-101's that were recently cosmetically restored. No F-100's I've seen. There are many F-4's, 102's, F9F's etc used as targets on the ranges, but they're pretty far gone. I'll look at Ajo next time I fly over, but I haven't seen anything there yet. Goodyear and Peoria are on my side of town, so I'll look, but I've never seen any fighters at Goodyear Airport; there is a DC-7C that is complete on the north side of the field. I'll look for pics.


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 Post subject: Apache Junction
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The Apache Junction T-33, 53-6008, is mounted on a pole at the American Legion hall at 1018 S. Meridian.

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 Post subject: Re: Arizona Locator
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#10: Where exactly is the Army Airfield Museum in Kingman?

http://www.kingmanairportauthority.com/air_museum.htm

#23: Where exactly is the WASP Museum in Quartzsite?

http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2& ... &alt=-1000


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As usual the great WIX comes through. A fire hose effect this time, but I am not complaining! :-)

skippyscage wrote:
I was only in the area last week as it happens:

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#2: Are there a number of MiG-15s at the Coolidge Airport?

the airfield was pretty deserted when I was there - if they are in a hangars then I didn't have access - saw no signs of then outside


I have added to the notes.

mrhenniger wrote:
#21: Is there T-6, C-123, F-8 and/or MiG-15 at the Phoenix Deer Valley Airport?

skippyscage wrote:
there is certainly a C-123 parked up - didn't get a photo as I was tired and there was a lot of construction

Chad Veich wrote:
There used to be several T-6s at Deer Valley including several ex-Sky Typer machines but I'm not sure what is there now. The entire Cactus Squadron was based there but I'm not sure what has happened since the loss of Carl Schmeider and his T-6. The Crusader are all gone now. Not sure about the Mig-15 but there is a Mig-17 amongst all the L-39s which can bee google earthed at:
33d 41m 29.59s N
112d 04m 54.87s W


Is the C-123 an ¡§active¡¨ airframe, or is it a case of it not going anywhere anytime soon? Where exactly around the airport is it? I took a look using Google Earth, but no C-123 shape stood out. I may have overlooked it.

I have include the location of the MiG-17 (that was probably a case of the MiG-15 misidentified) and the L-39s. I have also noted the removal of the F-8, and dropped the mention of the T-6.

Chad Veich wrote:
mrhenniger wrote:
#14: Are there any aircraft displayed at Falcon Field in Mesa?


The Arizona Wing of the CAF is located at Falcon and has a number of aircraft on display. There are also several DC-3s, DC-6s, Harpoons, Canberras, and others scattered about the airport.


I already had CAF listed, but not specifically at Falcon. I corrected that.

Chad Veich wrote:
mrhenniger wrote:
#18: Is there a F-96 in Goodyear?


Not that I'm aware of


Actually that is a typo. I meant to ask if there is a F-86 Sabre in Goodyear.

Chad Veich wrote:
but there is a T-33 on display within the ROTC compound of Agua Fria Union High School. You can see it in google earth here:
33d 26m 32.21s N
112d 20m 41.79s W


Good stuff! Thanks! I now have it listed under ¡§Phoenix ¡V Avondale¡¨.

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mrhenniger wrote:
#20: Is there a T-38 at Williams AFB?


Yes, on a pole.


I should have asked if there is a A-37, F-86, P-50 and T-33 there as well. Is there?

jbloomer2 wrote:
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#11: Is there a T-38 displayed in Mesa?


It is mounted on a pylon at Williams Gateway Airport.(The old Williams Air Force Base)


I have removed the reference to the T-38 in the town of Mesa, and left the Williams reference.

bilwor wrote:
Mike
Titan Missile Museum is located at 31 54 11.58N and 110 59 56.60W on Google earth.

The Titan Missile Museum is a part of Pima Air and Space Museum. You can go to www.pimaair.org\ and find it listed at the top of the PASM home page.
bill word


That confused me when I was building the list. It is part Pima ASM, but it is not co-located with Pima ASM.

bilwor wrote:
Yes there is a HU-16 at Tucson International Airport. I will get the id tomorrow and post
bill word


ID¡¦s are good, but locations are better for the Locator! ;-) What part of the airport is it located?

jbloomer2 wrote:
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#13: Is there a F9F in a Pioneer Park in Mesa?


There was up until approxamately 20 years ago. It was taken down and disposed of for liability reasons.


Noted.

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#22: I have a F-86, F-104, F-84 and T-33 listed at the Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport. Are there any other airframes displayed at this airport?


All are located in the Arizona Air Guard facility. All are in good shape. The F-86 is located at the gate. The others are inside the facility. Unknown if there are any other airframes.


Noted.

jbloomer2 wrote:
Add to your list an F-86D mounted on a pylon in Chandler.


I already have it. ;-)

jbloomer2 wrote:
Also, there is a T-33 mounted on a pylon at the American Legion in Apache Junction

Chris Brame wrote:
The Apache Junction T-33, 53-6008, is mounted on a pole at the American Legion hall at 1018 S. Meridian.


That one too! :-)

jamesintucson wrote:
25 and 26. You can never tell what is hidden away back in the scrap yards. It is likely that there are parts of Sabres in the Dross yard but I've never noticed one intact in there. The scrap dealers do not encourage visitors who aren't planning on dropping large amounts of $$$ on them. Its hard enough to get some of those guys to deal with you when you do want to buy something.


Noted.

jamesintucson wrote:
Also Bob's Airpark is long gone, sold out when Bob Hoover died about 8 years ago.


Noted.

doctor wrote:
There is an F-84F at Gila Bend AFAF, well maintained, and a number of de-milled aircraft waiting to be targets on the ranges: 6 or so A-4M's, 4 A3D's, several F-106 fuselages, an A-7E in great shape, several AH-1's and Mohawks. Also, if I'm not mistaken, an old Mace missile.


Are these other items of interest here?: 32 52 38.29 N 112 44 00.51 W

I would guess it is a safe bet none of these other interesting airframes are accessible to the public.

Is the F-84 accessible?

doctor wrote:
No F-100's I've seen.


Noted.

doctor wrote:
I'll look at Ajo next time I fly over, but I haven't seen anything there yet.


Great.

doctor wrote:
Goodyear and Peoria are on my side of town, so I'll look


Thanks. There is potentially a F-84 in Peoria and a F-86 is Goodyear.

doctor wrote:
but I've never seen any fighters at Goodyear Airport; there is a DC-7C that is complete on the north side of the field. I'll look for pics.


Oh so that is what that big thing was! ;-) I have added the DC-7 to the entry, and left the questions of the F-86 there as well.

bluethunder28 wrote:
#10: Where exactly is the Army Airfield Museum in Kingman?

http://www.kingmanairportauthority.com/air_museum.htm


If you don¡¦t mind, could you take a look at the map link (click the satellite image button) and let me know which building is theirs?


bluethunder28 wrote:
#23: Where exactly is the WASP Museum in Quartzsite?

http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2& ... &alt=-1000


I have updated the map link. Is it now pointing to the WASP Museum building? It looks more like an industrial site.

Regards,

Mike

P.S. Here is what is left of the ¡§I Need Help¡¨ list¡K

EDIT: I have what remains of the list to my most recent post.

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Regarding the F-84 in Peoria, unless it has been removed recently, it is there. I think it's located at an American Legion or possibly a recruiting office. I could not find it on google earth for whatever reason but I know it's there!

Regarding the C-123 at Deer Valley, it is inactive and is located in the north-west portion of the airport. It's camouflauged so it's hard to spot on the dirt! Looks like a bright white DeHavilland twin parked next to it.

Last but not least, there are/were several OV-1 Mohawk airframes stored at a farm out in Glendale. I will see if I can find them on Google earth assuming they are still there.

PS - There is also a Cougar on a farm in Buckeye, do you have that one?


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3. yes there is an F-16 in Douglas. Google Earth at:

31 20 26.00 N
109 32 15.79 W

It is on the south side of just about the only green grass in the whole town.

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Museum at Kingman #10



Google earth pic,

West side of the ramp, there is a Yellow Twin otter?????? Or maybe a Cl-215 that is pointing south. The old blk roof building just to the north of that airplane is the museum building.

Wife let me go to kingman while on our Honeymoon in Vegas!!!! Was neat to see where all those bombers went to there destruction. Wish I had know that there is actually lots of stuff to still see out there or I would have gone and walked the desert. (Lots of fuel cells)

Another thing you might mention.................The museum was closed at kingman but before we went to the airfield, we visited the Historical society in town. They has some stuff on the airfield including a display of bomber parts that were found AND a big cut piece of skin containing some nose art. It was a B-17 but I dont remember the name of it. I just remember commenting on some of the rivits that "rosie" did.

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